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Konovalov 10-01-08 03:42 AM

Just as poor for the Ferrari team was how slow the pit crew were to react and get down the end of the pit lane to remove the fuel nozzel. It seems to be no coincidence that the departure of Ross Braun and Jean Todt has seen a drop in reliability and a litany of mistakes by Ferrari this year. I don't see Ferrari winning this year nor do I think they deserve to.

Dowly 10-01-08 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Konovalov
Just as poor for the Ferrari team was how slow the pit crew were to react and get down the end of the pit lane to remove the fuel nozzel. It seems to be no coincidence that the departure of Ross Braun and Jean Todt has seen a drop in reliability and a litany of mistakes by Ferrari this year. I don't see Ferrari winning this year nor do I think they deserve to.

IIRC, the pitcrew was shown running over to Massa from their pit just few seconds after Massa stopped. But it was that the Ferrari's pit was on the other end of the pitlane. Atleast that's what our commentary said. :hmm:

XabbaRus 10-01-08 05:58 AM

Now the Ferrari director is moaning about the Singapore track. I know he criticised it before the race began but I bet he wouldn't be moaning if Massa had won.

Also his comment about new circuits being a circus..well Ferrari did supply the clowns.

Konovalov 10-01-08 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus
Also his comment about new circuits being a circus..well Ferrari did supply the clowns.

:lol: :lol: Now that was a good one.

HunterICX 10-01-08 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly
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Originally Posted by Konovalov
Just as poor for the Ferrari team was how slow the pit crew were to react and get down the end of the pit lane to remove the fuel nozzel. It seems to be no coincidence that the departure of Ross Braun and Jean Todt has seen a drop in reliability and a litany of mistakes by Ferrari this year. I don't see Ferrari winning this year nor do I think they deserve to.

IIRC, the pitcrew was shown running over to Massa from their pit just few seconds after Massa stopped. But it was that the Ferrari's pit was on the other end of the pitlane. Atleast that's what our commentary said. :hmm:

They where focussing on getting Kimi back on the track first...as he was just arriving when Massa left.

also there was traffic in the pitlane so the pitcrew had to be carefull at first.
and then he was just before the exit of the pit.

Ferrari must dump that stupid light system and put the lollipop guy back on full time.

HunterICX

Hitman 10-01-08 06:37 AM

Good notes Konovalov, and I would add the departure of Michael Schumacher. He was well known for being very demanding in details and always requesting precision.

On a side note, I have never been a huge Massa fan, specially since I saw him driving in the wet in Silverstone (Of course the McLaren is by far the best car in the wet, and not coincidentally Alonso also made an impressive overtaking manouver last year over Felipe's Ferrari also in the wet), but to his credit and the polemic Spa penalty nonwithstanding it should be noted that he leaded the Hungarian GP with autority when his engine failed, and the he was leading well the Singapur GP when the stupid lights system of Ferrari ruined his race. Plus he made a good overtaking movement over Hamilton in dry conditions, (Who had the smaller balls there to brake late, Lewis? And who had them in Spa last year when Alonso and you went side by side to Eau Rouge in Spa? :roll: ). Thus, even if Lewis is a better driver in the wet and probably also in the dry (though by a lesser margin) I must admit that Felipe has also done merits to be crowned champion this year. Not as many as Lewis, who is a more complete driver, but his abilities have been proven.

stabiz 10-01-08 06:53 AM

My ranking of the top drivers in F1 at the moment:

1. Alonso
2. Hamilton
3. Raikkonen
4. Kubica
5. Massa / Vettel

I cant base this on other things than impressions from the seasons so far. The reason I rate Kimi higher than Felipe is because I think Kimi is having problems with the car setup/ tires this year, he just doesnt look like himself. And he has always dominated his teammates in earlier seasons, including Massa.

As for Alonso and Hamilton, both can be ***holes, but I think they are the best we have seen since Schumacher.

Kubica is on the list because the knowledgeable in the pit lane says he is that good, and because Lewis said he is the only driver he fears.

And Vettel has completely crushed Bourdais, a really good driver.

Jimbuna 10-01-08 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by HunterICX

Ferrari must dump that stupid light system and put the lollipop guy back on full time.

HunterICX

No problem ;)

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/8831/gglitterax1.jpg

Konovalov 10-01-08 07:37 AM

So that is where the scumbag has been hiding here in the UK. :down:

VonDos 10-01-08 08:37 AM

Poor Ferrari >_<

Hitman 10-01-08 09:15 AM

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The reason I rate Kimi higher than Felipe is because I think Kimi is having problems with the car setup/ tires this year, he just doesnt look like himself. And he has always dominated his teammates in earlier seasons, including Massa.
Yeah, but Fernando also went from Michelin in Renault to Bridgestone in Mclaren in 2007 and look how well he did it. Besides, Kimi was champion last year with the Bridgestones already, so no excuses for that :hmm:

I personally think that what happens to Kimi is a personal problem of motivation/attitude. Having won last year's championship has not been the best thing for this year's morale.

Never mind, the reason I like him more than other drivers is not just because of his talent and amazing driving when he is concentrated, but because of his attitude of macho-driver from past eras like the 70s, when racers smoked, partied and went with girls the night before the race. I somehow have never liked the modern hyperyoung-super-cyber-ultra-professional athletes like Alonso or Lewis, as they make the competition less human and romantic to my eyes. Of course that's the way to win, as has happened in all sports (Compare soccer players from the 70s and from nowadays), but Kimi's title last year was for me a wellcomed boost of fresh air, of rebellion against a way of engaging the competitions that alienates the participants a lot. Alonso and Lewis were both moulded as champions from their youngest age, they started racing in karts with three years! :o The adaptability and skills of their bodies when they still were childs has been carefully moulded and modified as if they were dogs or race horses in favour of one skill: car racing.

And I hate that way of doing things. It's not human, it's artificial :nope:

stabiz 10-01-08 01:53 PM

Hehe, I hear you. Kimi once said he admired James Hunt. And we all know he is the coolest F1 driver ever.

Lookie here:
http://home.online.no/%7Eorjanbye/fy..._hunt_1976.jpg

robbo180265 10-01-08 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by stabiz
Hehe, I hear you. Kimi once said he admired James Hunt. And we all know he is the coolest F1 driver ever.

Lookie here:
http://home.online.no/%7Eorjanbye/fy..._hunt_1976.jpg

Brilliant photo Stabiz - my new computer wallpaper when I get home:up:

Hitman 10-01-08 02:18 PM

GREAT ONE Stabiz!!! :rock:

Those were the giants, and compared to them modern drivers are just dwarfs :smug: (Except Kimi!)

stabiz 10-01-08 02:33 PM

There is a great story about James Hunt. They were practising at Hockenheim, I beleive, back when it was long, fast and awesome, and the team lost contact with Hunt when he was in the woods at the far end of the track. The team got worried and sent out a car to find him, fearing he had crashed horribly. They found him parked nicely besides the track, sleeping in the cockpit. He was hung over.:rotfl:


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