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Kurushio 06-15-06 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Linton
I still find it hard to believe that any forum member would OPPOSE any improvement to the games we play.

I think some forum members argue a point just for the sake of arguing. ;)

XabbaRus 06-15-06 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by goldorak
Lets get real, SC evolved into SCX/SCU because of illegal tinkering.
And this crippled not only the community but SCS as well.
No wonder they are trying to enforce a strict no mod policy on DW with regards to playable units.

Players should realize that they had a free ride with SC but now SCS is in command again and the future is with DW not with SC.

As someone involved in SCX I have to disagree with some of your stuff. SCX wasn't illegal tinkering, it was infact if not official sanctioned, approved of by Jamie and the team, ie they weren't against us doing it and gave us a lot of help and tools to enable Thomas to do the work he did, (The dbase editor came from Ludger but SCS didn't mind him making it, so much so they helped him out with info for DWEdit.) and thus arrive at SCX. SCU was a seperate entity altogether, though for it to work you needed to have SCX installed. SCS never intended to addon extra playables for SC, though they weren't too happy with SCU, as SC had gone as far as it could they let it slide. DW was created with a different way of marketing and extending from the start, ie it was always intended to create additional platforms, though whether sales are high enough to justify that is another question.

SCX/SCU didn't cripple the community or SCS at all, infact SCX attracted people to SC. It was just that when DW came out Jamie laid down the law as to what could be modded and what couldn't. If SCS had not intention of producing addon packs and were happy with the community making new playables they would have said so.

SCU actually required hacking the dlls and exe, that is the main issue with it. So to say it crippled the community is nonsense. If it had crippled the community then Jamie wouldn't have anything to do with Luft, Ami, Thomas, Ludger or whoever else would be involved in modding DW.

As it is though SCS have been quiet the team have been pulled onto other jobs as someone pointed out the US Govt is the main customer. Fingers crossed whatever they do for the NAvy will filter down to DW minus the obviously classified stuff.

Linton 06-15-06 09:39 AM

Great post Xabbarus.I started on this forum because I enjoyed playing SC.The stock game would have rapidly become very tedious without the scx realism and the scu platform changer made a huge difference.I am sure that the games side of scs's business is not a major profit centre for them but saying that we cannot do some of the mods they tacitly sanctioned for sc and then promising extra platforms but not producing them is just a bit frustrating!:hmm:

XabbaRus 06-15-06 10:28 AM

They never sanctioned SCU, I don't think they realised until too late what that was about but by then DW was on the way.

As for SCX, they couldn't support it with tech help and anything it did to your system, but they liked it.


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