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SubSerpent 03-20-06 07:10 PM

I got something important to say about all this ..... oh....oh dear....oh no....here it comes..............'BBBBBBBUUUUURRRRRIIIIIPPPPPPSs ss'!!!!!
Nevermind, I just had to fart!!!! :rotfl:

jasonb885 03-20-06 07:54 PM

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I take it you are not a political speech writer!!!:rotfl:

Heh.

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Many people have made such false claims on the new one often by association and that is where I have made my defenses.

All anyone has is your word that the upcoming mod is 'clean'.

Maybe a sincere apology from the actual X1 tools instead of more nude photo links would be worthwhile.

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I do understand those that do not want to consider this because of past events.

Yep.

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I also am concerned that those that make the choice to buy this add on will be rediculed at this site and driven away.
There is nothing wrong with people choosing not to buy this.
But, there is nothing wrong with others making the choice to add to their SH3 experience in a manner that does not involve learning the mod world and they should be welcomed to a stronger larger community that makes SH4 more pomentially succesful.

I don't see how any of this would make SH4 more successful.

Between Starforce and how buggy SH3 was until v1.4b, I think UBI has made a very effective case for not purchasing their products in the future. Officially sanctioning scammers like X1 is just icing.

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You have every right to not buy UBI products, your choice. Most here will want to get SH4 and our far bigger concern is not X-1 but Starforce.

Starforce is definitely a real problem.

It's a shame when a 'software pirate' has more freedom with something he has no license to use than those who actually pay for a license to play!

:down:

Wulfmann 03-20-06 08:17 PM

I see your point J and actually usually do. I just prefer to look past it for my own personal fun. I like SH3. I run at least one patrol every single day sometimes 2 or 3.

There is no black and white to me only variations of Grey. The mod community stealing X-1s mods and saying it was OK because the left their private site unprotected said all I needed to know about shades of grey on no one being the good guy.
You will never make me believe the mod community acted reasonably or honorably. They got right down and did the very same stuff, in principle they accused X-1 of doing.
War crimes are only war crimes when the other guy does it!

That said, I advise X-1. I suggest ships to model and run patrols and tell them my opinion and I am as frank as I am here.
They are not making this for me. They do not care what purist think. This will be for increased game play with history as a starting point and game play more important.
What is kind of odd is while I complain about the RND.mis file and think it will be a traffic jam it does not play like that at all.
I will get 3 or 4 task force reports and 2 small convoys but never run into any of them because they change directions more often. With all the task forces reported in about 40 missions I have attacked about 6 or 7. I see them passing out of range almost once a patrol on average. You are right, that is too much. But it is much more fun and I almost hate to admit that. Reality in a U-Boat is extreme boredom with brief periods of terror. This simple condenses the action. Patrols are shorter and with more variation in the action, much more Luftwaffe involvement and having to ID for fear of hitting friendlies. This is a whole new way of SH3. Not so much better but so different it is worthwhile if for only a change of pace for us that actually play this on a regular basis.
The people that buy this will mostly be very happy they did.
Wulfmann

Syxx_Killer 03-20-06 08:52 PM

Does someone have a link to this "new" Meditteranean add-on? I'm curious what is being added. :88)

jasonb885 03-20-06 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Wulfmann
I see your point J and actually usually do. I just prefer to look past it for my own personal fun. I like SH3. I run at least one patrol every single day sometimes 2 or 3.

Fun? I guess you have too much free time if you find paying Devil's advocate for people that suck fun.

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Originally Posted by Wulfmann
There is no black and white to me only variations of Grey. The mod community stealing X-1s mods and saying it was OK because the left their private site unprotected said all I needed to know about shades of grey on no one being the good guy.

First, the 'mod community' never said any such a thing. You can't speak for everyone.

Second, no one sold or in any way profited from peaking at the leaked SeaWolves release.

If you think X1's transgression is the lesser that is truly sad.

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Originally Posted by Wulfmann
You will never make me believe the mod community acted reasonably or honorably. They got right down and did the very same stuff, in principle they accused X-1 of doing.
War crimes are only war crimes when the other guy does it!

Eh?

There was no profiteering on the part of _any_ commmunity modder. _NOT A ONE._

X1 laughed all the way to the bank, using community mods to get paid. That's just sick.

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That said, I advise X-1. I suggest ships to model and run patrols and tell them my opinion and I am as frank as I am here.
They are not making this for me. They do not care what purist think. This will be for increased game play with history as a starting point and game play more important.
What is kind of odd is while I complain about the RND.mis file and think it will be a traffic jam it does not play like that at all.
I will get 3 or 4 task force reports and 2 small convoys but never run into any of them because they change directions more often. With all the task forces reported in about 40 missions I have attacked about 6 or 7. I see them passing out of range almost once a patrol on average. You are right, that is too much. But it is much more fun and I almost hate to admit that. Reality in a U-Boat is extreme boredom with brief periods of terror. This simple condenses the action. Patrols are shorter and with more variation in the action, much more Luftwaffe involvement and having to ID for fear of hitting friendlies. This is a whole new way of SH3. Not so much better but so different it is worthwhile if for only a change of pace for us that actually play this on a regular basis.
The people that buy this will mostly be very happy they did.

Only those that either a) don't know that X1 and CP borrowed from the community without permission or apparently any consideration or b) like you, really don't care.

Your attitude can only be taken as one big FU to the modding community.

jasondef 03-21-06 03:33 AM

I think y'all arguing is at this point futile, nobody's going to budge from their platform. So just agree to disagree, and go sink some merchants already! Its much more fun than this topic at this point.

Kpt. Lehmann 03-21-06 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jasondef
I think y'all arguing is at this point futile, nobody's going to budge from their platform. So just agree to disagree, and go sink some merchants already! Its much more fun than this topic at this point.

Yes and there are always alternatives as long as our modders live and breathe. :cool:

The Avon Lady 03-21-06 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jasondef
I think y'all arguing is at this point futile, nobody's going to budge from their platform. So just agree to disagree, and go sink some merchants already! Its much more fun than this topic at this point.

Yes and there are always alternatives as long as our modders live and breathe. :cool:

:o Don't give them any ideas!!!!!!! :o

The Noob 03-21-06 10:42 AM

<First warning. - Gizzmoe>

Kpt. Lehmann 03-21-06 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann
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Originally Posted by jasondef
I think y'all arguing is at this point futile, nobody's going to budge from their platform. So just agree to disagree, and go sink some merchants already! Its much more fun than this topic at this point.

Yes and there are always alternatives as long as our modders live and breathe. :cool:

:o Don't give them any ideas!!!!!!! :o

Arrrgh!

I should re-state what I am trying to say I guess.

There are always alternatives to dealing with questionable sources/parties/potential software pirates and/or piracy....

Which is how I view X-1 and all related.

I'm not going to quantify or qualify my stated opinion. I don't have the time to do so.

Besides, the Subsim community faithful have largely echoed my thoughts on the matter anyway.

Boycott X-1

Come to Subsim.com and get what you want regarding add-ons free and clean.

Wulfmann 03-21-06 11:50 AM

IMO, it was the mod community that made SH3 an excellent game rather than a decent short of its potential program.
Still, I look at my highly tweaked version and it is so unique that no one has anything like it.
I like to mod. That is part of the fun.
So do others here like to mod. I hope they also enjoy it.
The majority of people do not mod in spite of the dozens that post here believing they represent the whole SH3 community and all think just like them.
Dream on.
The new Seawolves Mediterranean, to those that do not mod, will improve their game considerably. The fact it will cost them an hour of their wages and allow them to simply play and enjoy escapes the majority here and that is almost unbelievable how that is not understood.
Most do not want to mod. They buy PC games to play.
I understand and agree with those that boycott X-1.
I understand and agree with those that do not care and want to buy a Mod add on and enjoy themselves.
And Jason, if you think your criticizing me for having all the time in the world to do exactly what I please every day of my life well is a cut, well, you are not alone. People can not understand how I can enjoy myself so much and am busy day and night never having time for TV and such when I have no obligation to do a thing. It is called self modivation.

Wulfmann

jasonb885 03-21-06 02:42 PM

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The majority of people do not mod in spite of the dozens that post here believing they represent the whole SH3 community and all think just like them.
Dream on.

Eh?

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The new Seawolves Mediterranean, to those that do not mod, will improve their game considerably.

In support of those who are shady. With a reputation like X1 and CombatPlanes have, it sounds like it's better to light my money on fire.

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The fact it will cost them an hour of their wages and allow them to simply play and enjoy escapes the majority here and that is almost unbelievable how that is not understood.

And that's a lot if you're buying from a scammer. You have no recourse once you've been screwed over. You think Amazon is going to refund your money? Heh.

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Most do not want to mod. They buy PC games to play.

And those people don't read this forum and don't know they're supporting a company of lies and thieves.

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I understand and agree with those that boycott X-1.
I understand and agree with those that do not care and want to buy a Mod add on and enjoy themselves.

Good job.

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And Jason, if you think your criticizing me for having all the time in the world to do exactly what I please every day of my life well is a cut, well, you are not alone. People can not understand how I can enjoy myself so much and am busy day and night never having time for TV and such when I have no obligation to do a thing. It is called self modivation.

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No, I critize for your continued support of proven scammers. Your determination to defend X1 and CP is just sickening.

What your describe sounds like unemployment, to me.

Why not employ some of that self motivation towards a good course in grammar, eh?

kthxbye.

JCWolf 03-21-06 02:53 PM

Oh peeeeelease! :zzz:


This talk about X1 Sucks! :rock:

It's anoying, and completly out of timing cause now that Greywolves came out i Wonder what they'll do! :o


Sorry guys , but realy , talking about X... is giving that thing to much importance! :arrgh!:


"I hope Nobody Kills me for this! " :doh: :up:

VonHelsching 03-21-06 04:54 PM

Please...
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:/\x:

xrvjorn 03-21-06 05:08 PM

Being an X-1 apologist seems to be a lot of work, but the effort must be about as rewarding as being an SCO apologist at a Linux forum...

Wulfmann 03-21-06 06:04 PM

"What your describe sounds like unemployment, to me. "

That would be true if I wanted employment.
Even when I did work for a living as a freelance photojournalist and then a travel writer it was by assignment.
Have you noticed I don’t mind having a different point of view? How long do think that would last at a job (ugh, the word job is sick!)

I enjoy complete freedom. I wake up when I open my eyes not buy any schedule.

I do hear of people that can’t function without a job but that amazes me. I love having 24/7 all to myself.

J, I am beginning to think we don’t agree on this!

Bad grammar??? I ain’t gots no book lernen!

Wulfmann

jasonb885 03-21-06 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by xrvjorn
Being an X-1 apologist seems to be a lot of work, but the effort must be about as rewarding as being an SCO apologist at a Linux forum...

Haha.

You called it so good!

:up: :up: :up:

jasonb885 03-21-06 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Wulfmann
"What your describe sounds like unemployment, to me. "

That would be true if I wanted employment.
Even when I did work for a living as a freelance photojournalist and then a travel writer it was by assignment.
Have you noticed I don’t mind having a different point of view? How long do think that would last at a job (ugh, the word job is sick!)

Yeah, it's nice being able to air how you really feel about things. ;)

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I enjoy complete freedom. I wake up when I open my eyes not buy any schedule.

I do hear of people that can’t function without a job but that amazes me. I love having 24/7 all to myself.

J, I am beginning to think we don’t agree on this!

Bad grammar??? I ain’t gots no book lernen!

Yes, I eventually became really bored. Instead of shillin' for X1 I ended up getting a job with a good company, cool people, and a flexible schedule. It's quite nice. The pay is certainly nice.

:smug:

kiwi_2005 03-21-06 06:35 PM

The only type of ppl that play X1 games are these types :arrgh!:

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...music_porn.jpg

Cheapskate 03-21-06 06:46 PM

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The only type of ppl that play X1 games are these types :arrgh!:

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...music_porn.jpg

Oi Kiwi !! Watch what you're saying :hulk: I've never been near an XI game in my life!!!!

Mind you, I've got a couple of Combatplanes ones.....Is that as bad????


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