well man..
 

thats just it... its pitching downwards... as it should due to positive velocity from the dive order shallow... bow comes up... stern overshoots (pitches downwards) then levels out.. in-game physics in play..

regarding the TA.. there is TOO MUCH SLACK @ speeds >= 5kts @ 701mtrs

the rapid change in angle(sub leveling out) + at said speed + slack causes the TA to 'whip'

the only thing i can see happening, is at speeds less than 5kts...

at low speeds for a period of time the TA is hung over stern... which exact speed im not sure of, but its common sense. And because of low cruise speeds there isnt ANY SLACK in the TA.. by the time you undergo the same maneuvers (shallow) you bet its going to snap...

its a textbook example man...


sub in search mode at 1-3 kts

TA at max scope - thinking he/shes getting good coverage

no readings at max deep - so change depth to change layers

but have to go shallow to bring 701mtrs of TA to upper layer

then..


*** snap ***

The physics model is pretty close now, but the AI planesman is not good enough to keep up, that's my impression... although the subs STILL seem to blow ballast when ascending, a completely separate and older issue than the bow settling off faster than the stern on a rapid ascent.

If I have a concrete opinion on this other than "stern shouldn't rise, can't get the TA to break with normal maneovering" I'll be sure to let you guys know. :up:

:hmm: how does that ole saying go?

"if it(TA) aint broke.. don't fix it" :rotfl:


The more and more I ponder this braking TA phenomenon…

and the more I fail miserably attempting to snap my own TA…

the MORE other divers I know that ARE FAILING MISERABLY…

on ANY ONE of the 4 platforms…

the more comical I’m finding this &*@! to be.....


I give up ladies/gents....

:hmm: No big deal - if you have deployed a partial TA ( to the 'S") - haul it in pre-depth change.

I mostly use 'partial' and have'nt experienced breakages other than at high speed.

We're taking a look at this one, sorry about the delay guys. I'll keep you posted.

This is the tactic that I live by. For one, you can implement the use of your TA in shallower waters. :rock: :arrgh!:

Typically I only deploy my TA to full length if I am trying to get triangulation for quick distance estimation on sphere contacts or if I am trying to drag the TA under a layer (a tactic that is critical for success in submarine combat in DW 1.03).

If I am making a turn or depth change, I never leave my TA at farther than half length because it takes longer for the TA to come about and stablize after the manoever.

Hurray! :sunny: :-j

Like suBB, I have tried all ways **to break my fully extended starboard SW TA, with no joy. :hmm:

** Speeds up to 33 knots with dialled-in depth changes maintaining course. No EB and no reverse. Max depth 440 ft. min 55 ft.

@bellman..... :up:

my good man... try all that you will... i dont think you will break one anytime soon... and make sure you vote in the polls, if you havent done so already..

@goldorak....

you went quiet on us... have you finally stopped snapping TA's... or started playing subcommand (nudge) :)

There definitely is something strange going on in the sub controls. Have a look at the 3D vie of the sub when reducing depth, sometimes the front planes are even pointed straight down (perpendicular to the main axis of the sub).

Yeah .. this is part of 'drunken planesman' to .. I know .. there had to be some drunken boat desginer too in this case :-)
Yesterday I ALMOST cut TA on seawolf. Was doing 15kts at 1600ft. Ordered 300ft. Speed changed to 20kts and sonars washed out. I ordered 5 kts and for a moment before reaching target depth I was doing 1 kts ! I fastly ordered 2/3. I don't know if it could reach 0 but it was really close.