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The Avon Lady 11-14-05 11:29 AM
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Remember what moses did, no? Well i will tell you. Moses saw an Egyptian beating a Hebrew, one of his own people. Glancing this way and that and seeing no-one was looking he killed the Egyptian and hid him in the sand. So that day Moses commited murder. As terrible as Moses' sin was, it did not put him outside the purpose of God. Grace can forgive, cleanse and renew even a murderer and make him fit for the service of God. The same God who took a murderer like Moses or a prosecutor like Saul of Tarus and made them into people of power, can do the same for you. All he requires is your consent and co-operation.
Regarding Moses, no. He defended a helpless person from being beaten to death by an Egyptian taskmaster, who would have been a threat to Moses had he been alive.

If you kill a robber about to shoot an innocent person on the street, you are a hero, not a murderer.

As for Saul, are you referring to King Saul? If so, to what event?

Sixpack 11-14-05 11:36 AM
:huh: I don't want to go to New Jerusalem after my death !

Sign me up for an eternal Club Med in a Carribean or Tahitian style resort in the hereafter with beautiful oceans and subtropical islands to explore, plenty of sailing boats, scuba equipment, plenty of hot young women (not all virgins), only a handful of guys to drink beer with and play sims, great food in abundance, etc. And can I be 18 forever then ?

kiwi_2005 11-14-05 11:52 AM
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Regarding Moses, no. He defended a helpless person from being beaten to death by an Egyptian taskmaster, who would have been a threat to Moses had he been alive.
An eye for an eye?

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As for Saul, are you referring to King Saul? If so, to what event
(Saul of Tarsus) who was a pharasaic Jew and ruthless persecuter of Xians had a conversion experience. [He was blinded, Jesus told him to go meet a Jew in a certain town (forgot the name of the Jew) the Jews were afraid of him because he was well known as a murderer of Jews but once Saul told him what happened they helped him] Paul (formerly Saul of Tarus) then begins a program to convert the Gentiles to a reformed sect of Judaism.

I know you will correct me if i am wrong :sunny:

The Avon Lady 11-14-05 12:01 PM
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Regarding Moses, no. He defended a helpless person from being beaten to death by an Egyptian taskmaster, who would have been a threat to Moses had he been alive.
An eye for an eye?
No. "Do not stand by your brother's blood" (Leviticus 19:16).

Read your Bible! :smug:

kiwi_2005 11-14-05 12:16 PM
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Read your Bible!
Matthew: Chapter 5 verse 21
:|\

The Avon Lady 11-14-05 12:21 PM
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Read your Bible!
Matthew: Chapter 5 verse 21
It doesn't mention Moses there, does it?!

Let my people go! :arrgh!:

kiwi_2005 11-14-05 12:23 PM
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It doesn't mention Moses there, does it?!
No it doesn't. I just wanted to make sure you weren't losing your touch :smug:

The Avon Lady 11-14-05 12:26 PM
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It doesn't mention Moses there, does it?!
No it doesn't. I just wanted to make sure you weren't losing your touch :smug:
Well I'm sure to wind up with Carpal Tunnel Syndrome after all this posting. :down:

Abraham 11-14-05 12:32 PM
So What Do You Think Happens After You Die???
 
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It doesn't mention Moses there, does it?!
No it doesn't. I just wanted to make sure you weren't losing your touch :smug:
Well I'm sure to wind up with Carpal Tunnel Syndrome after all this posting. :down:
I'm ignorant. Can you explane what Carpal Tunnel Syndrome is? Does it have something to do with sharing a car to avoid paying toll for a tunnel (and save the environment)?
:roll:

kiwi_2005 11-14-05 12:33 PM
Please dont interupt me, i am re-reading the old testament....Again. :doh:

one question you dont have to answer straight away, maybe when the sydrome clears. How do Jews today see Jesus as? The Son of God or just a messenger of God or God himself.

Abraham 11-14-05 12:46 PM
So What Do You Think Happens After You Die???
 
Sorry to interrupt, but I'm sure I know The Avon Lady's answer...
Hear Israel, God is One (and Jezus is an heretic).

kiwi_2005 11-14-05 12:50 PM
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God is One and Jezus is an heretic.
Is not Jesus the Messiah which the Jews talked about? Some say Jesus is God and others Jesus is the Son of God.

Jesus is the Son of God. King of the Jews.

The Avon Lady 11-14-05 12:52 PM
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one question you dont have to answer straight away, maybe when the sydrome clears. How do Jews today see Jesus as? The Son of God or just a messenger of God or God himself.
Everything I command you that you shall be careful to do it. You shall neither add to it, nor subtract from it.

If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder,

and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them,"

you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the Lord, your God, is testing you, to know whether you really love the Lord, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul.
- Deuteronomy 13:1-4

The epitomy of the Torah's definition of a false profit. A phoney baloney, plain and simple. One of numerous at the time. Nothing special about him. Just another guy. He's all yours!

Is this really news to you? Really?!?!?!?! :o

The Avon Lady 11-14-05 12:54 PM
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God is One and Jezus is an heretic.
Is not Jesus the Messiah which the Jews talked about? Some say Jesus is God and others Jesus is the Son of God.

Jesus is the Son of God. King of the Jews.
Only by Christianity's defintion. We never refered to him as such.

General info: Why don't Jews believe in Jesus?

EDIT: Oh, oh! Been through this before. I don't have time for a disputation thread! :nope:

kiwi_2005 11-14-05 01:08 PM
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Is this really news to you? Really?!?!?!?!
The old testament again? What happened to the New Testament? Jesus a false prophet?

We all know the Bible is the Truth, now therefore the teachings of Jesus in the new testament is the truth. But what your saying is (unless i read it wrong) Jesus is a false prophet. The bible also says beware of wolves in sheeps clothing.

Jesus of Nazareth is the true King of the Jews, the lord of lords. But he is not God which some believe. Hes the Son of God.

If you say Jesus is a false prophet then surely somehow God would of made sure the teachings of Jesus wasn't added.

The Avon Lady 11-14-05 01:13 PM
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If you say Jesus is a false prophet then surely somehow God would of made sure the teachings of Jesus wasn't added.
He didn't and it wasn't. Only Christianity claims this.

Sorry to break the new to you, kid. :oops:

kiwi_2005 11-14-05 01:16 PM
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Only by Christianity's defintion. We never refered to him as such.
Ok your not a Christian Jew. Instead your the Jews from the old days that stand firm with the old testament beliefs.

Well hey i once use to be a dedicated rastafarian. Dreadlocks and all.

:rock:

The Avon Lady 11-14-05 01:18 PM
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Only by Christianity's defintion. We never refered to him as such.
Ok your not a Christian Jew.
I'm also not a male woman. :nope:
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Instead your the Jews from the old days that stand firm with the old testament beliefs.
Yes. We are known as................

............... um .............................

................ah..............................

................ahem..........................

................cough.........................

..........................................Jews. :|\

Fish 11-14-05 01:19 PM
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Is this really news to you? Really?!?!?!?!
The old testament again? What happened to the New Testament? Jesus a false prophet?

We all know the Bible is the Truth, now therefore the teachings of Jesus in the new testament is the truth. But what your saying is (unless i read it wrong) Jesus is a false prophet. The bible also says beware of wolves in sheeps clothing.

Jesus of Nazareth is the true King of the Jews, the lord of lords. But he is not God which some believe. Hes the Son of God.

If you say Jesus is a false prophet then surely somehow God would of made sure the teachings of Jesus wasn't added.
Isn't that a bit arrogant Kiwi, to think you know what realy happens 2000 year ago?
People here on the forum quarrel about what happend yesterday. :hmm:

Fish 11-14-05 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by kiwi_2005
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Only by Christianity's defintion. We never refered to him as such.
Ok your not a Christian Jew.
I'm also not a male woman. :nope:
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Instead your the Jews from the old days that stand firm with the old testament beliefs.
Yes. We are known as................

............... um .............................

................ah..............................

................ahem..........................

................cough.........................

..........................................Jews. :|\
:rotfl:


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