now now hang on...

- I thought Red Dawn was an excellent movie for its time, and I'm a big war movie buff
- U571 was good also along with Kelly's Heroes.

Remember, before you 'rate' the movies, you have to know what the director intended it to be ie. representation of the real thing or just some fictional stuff eg. Kelly's Heroes - this was more a light hearted comedy than anything else.

Now, these are some of the REAL crap movies:

- Rambo (nuff said)
- Hell on the battlefield
- Iron Eagle
- 633 Squadron (all those paper planes)
- POW
- The Thin Red Line
- Windtalkers (those F6F's are a joke)
- Battle of the Bulge

Now here are the GOOD movies:

WW1
- Lost Battalion
- All quiet on the Western Front
- Gallipolli
WW2
- Saving Private Ryan ( :up: )
- Band of Brothers
- U571 (yes I know...still a good movie)
- Das Boot
- Tuskegee Airmen (meh....)
- The Cruel Sea (excellent b/w movie)
- Memphis Belle
- Tora Tora Tora
Vietnam
- Platoon
- Hamburger Hill ( :up: )
- Full Metal Jacket (mainly the Hue battle at the end)

I personally dont care whether a movie is 100% accurate in content or what have you.I simply cant enjoy a movie if I am going to spend 90% of my time nit-picking every little detail of it.

I watch movies and rate them on their entertainment value and not on their historical value or accuracy.This way I can enjoy the movie for what it is supposed to be..a simple form of entertainment.If I want real history and accuracy I will go watch the History Channel or the Military Channel.

Pharoah states my opinion very well
"Remember, before you 'rate' the movies, you have to know what the director intended it to be ie. representation of the real thing or just some fictional stuff eg. Kelly's Heroes - this was more a light hearted comedy than anything else."
Not only the above statement but you also have to look at the budget they had available as well as what time constraints they were under to get the film done.

1.Pearl Harbor was made to be a drama NOT a war movie.They made this quite clear long before the movie came out.
2.Battle of the Bulge..I doubt you'd have been able to get many actual German tanks for the movie at least not in the numbers they needed.They had to make do with what they had available to them and their budget.


I have a list of least liked war movies but none I can put as worst(very short list)

1.Rambo series
2.Pearl Harbor( I hate girly flicks..BLECH)

Movies I enjoyed(just a few in my long list)

1.U571
2.Das Boot
3.Red Dawn
4.Kellys Heroes
5.Tora Tora Tora
6.Midway
7.Operation Petticoat..simply funny
8.Down Periscope..funny as hell
9.Final Countdown(Not a war movie as such but a good what if movie)
10.WindTalkers
11.Patton
12.Blackhawk Down
13.We Were Soldiers(excellent movie)

'The Green Berets' (1968) with John Wayne.

Politics aside, the movie is really bad! :down:

Yeah I forgot about that one, just saw it a few months ago. Doesn't count as a war movie I guess. Not much action, but the scene when they had to go into the bilge or flood tank or whatever that was with the fish skeletons, jellyfish, and god knows what else hanging all over the place really freaked me out. Well written and directed that scene was.

I dunno. I found The Green Berets to be almost ENDEARINGLY bad, like as if Ed Wood made a war flick. But it was politically charged, so that does make it a lousy movie for some. Beyond that, it had some pretty good action, a couple of memorable scenes, the Duke didn't just telephone in his performance (most of the time), and then there's a few screwball moments that just make you smile as they are so bad, even right down to the final scene where The Duke and the little boy go walking off into the sunset -- to the east.

My worst war film is perhaps "Platoon Leader" with Michael Dudikoff. If memory serves, at the end, his buddy falls on a live hand grenade to save the platoon. Instead of having his abdomen blown into hamburger, the guy lives long enough to get up, stumble into a jeep, find an American flag, and wrap himself in it before dying. And that was the high point of the film.

Of course, just to go slightly off topic, the only movie that was so bad that I walked out of it was "Showgirls" -- now I don't know how it ends. Does she get to be a showgirl or not?

I did sit all the way through "Gigli", which was much worse than "Showgirls", and deserves mention as quite possibly the worst Hollywood picture of all-time.

And by way of trivia, I actually worked in the place that they used as sets for "Maximum Surge", with Yasmine Bleeth and Walter Koenig. This movie didn't make it into mass-distribution, but I do consider it the Worst Movie Ever Made, Period.

Thin Red Line -- must be the longest and most boring movie I've ever seen!

I know there are many fans, but I can't stand watching John Wayne for anything but a good laugh. Though I must admit my favorite battle scene is still Star Trek II: Wrath of Kahn.
:up:

Worst? Uhh..
 

I really have a hard time badmouthing any movies. I've never NOT watched a complete movie, certainly not walked out of one.

A 'best' I haven't seen mentioned yet (forgive me if I missed it) was 'Twelve O'Clock High', which dealt with the stresses of the American bomber pilots in the UK during WWII. Recommended, makes you think.

John Wayne? :rotfl:

*in best fake JW accent* 'well, ya better move that there Tiger tank before I move it for ya'

Thin Red Line for me was a MASSIVE disappointment, especially as it came out a few weeks after Saving Private Ryan. With all those 'big name' actors that you only see for 4 secs or so.

Oh yeah, now you're talking. That was the ULTIMATE Trek battle. Probably my favorite movie, too. :|\

crap, wrong thread :doh:

I am a big fan of John Wayne, but the film on my list of the worst was "The Conqueror", a musical in which he plays Genghis Kahn.

The last time I saw it on ebay a VHS was going for upwards of $150 USD.

My local specialty vid store has it, I saw it. Extraordinarly bad.

Pearl Harbor sucked. Both as a war film or a dramatic film.

Did anyone see Team America: World Police? There was a song called "I Love You Like Pearl Harbor Sucked"

just about any Frank sinatra one. Ie "Von Ryans Epress" another one where he is a medic and crashlands on an island.



I loved Danny Kaye. great farces

Aw, c'mon! Von Ryan's Express is an OK movie! :yep:

Ages ago, I saw the movie "The Bridge at Remagen". Seems to have been long forgotten.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't like The Thin Red Line... everybody seemed so enthousisatic about it and I think it got some great reviews, but I thought it must be one of the most boring movies ever. Well... apart from Pearl of course :lol:

There was plenty of hysteria in the Reagan era all right. All of it from those who didn't then and still don't, can't, or won't appreciate or understand his leadership.

Red Dawn was the product of Hollywood as clueless and out of touch with reality then as now.

I'm with you on both counts there...

Sinatra never did anything for me. Now Bing Crosby...there was a voice to remember.

I can't believe I didn't see Apocolypse Now in the list, despite Duvall's contribution, it's still a terrible (war film).
Granted, it's actually leftist propaganda anyway and should rank up there (or down there) with coming home by hanoi Jane.

"Apocalypse Now" was bad? You gotta be effin kiddin me! It was great, same with "The Deer Hunter"!

Apocalypse Now will forever be noted as a brilliant work, if only for the fact that the Air Cav plays Wagner while assaulting a VC village. That scene, my friends, was pure filmmaking genius.

Apocalypse now is one of the best movies ever made,
but i would not call it a war film.

Of course, there´s a war going on in that film.

Also i wouldn´t call it a leftist propaganda film.

I wouldn´t call it an antiwar movie also.

It´s much more...

This film has no easy message in (war is bad, war is good war is cruel, blablabla...) ;)

It´s a masterpiece.

Performed by brilliant actors

Watch it again Nagel, if you like. Do you already have seen the "redux" version?
Use a good TV if possible and good soundequipment...

ok, sorry enough evangelism :-j
and excuse my poor english