Government Doctors.

Vast majority of doctors, actually. Push your perception bubble a little.

From reasoning people be mandated by associating a threat like the Sars-cov2 virus with the plague or a cars seat belt, or proclaiming it can be eradicated or even subdued, prevent infection, accusing the unvaxxed of not caring, soulless animals desire to deny healthcare has all been brought up before and you know it. Not one responsible or scientific fact to any of those arguments. All of it IMO stems from frightened children afraid of life and old men afraid of death banding together in what a I think any reasonable person would call an attempt at mob rule.

And yes there may be a benefit to being vaccinated. Which after having reviewed the possibilities I went ahead with it. But also in the release form printed in black and white was stated a potential for very serious short and long term side effects as well. I even had to sign a document acknowledging those FACTS. But just because I did doesn’t mean you nor I should demand anyone else to involuntarily submit to it.

Not one scientific fact eh? Why ask or believe doctors when you have the internet and folks like Jo Rogan to inform yourself.

B.t.w it was not me comparing it with seat belts, i did not say it can be completly eradicated, and i do not remember soulless animals. You know it all exactly of course, and the rest of the world is unfortunately too dumb.
B.t.w. thanks for once more wrongly misquoting me with the smiley at that place to 'prove' your point.

One thing is what he says another thing is to believe what he has said.

As mentioned before I know who he is-but I do not believe what he says.

Markus

And that is the thing here Markus. We are not required to believe anything that anyone says.

And I do not have the right to tell you what you may say or believe.

Markus

:up:

The 1st amendment doesn't guarantee you the right to be heard, only that Congress shall pass no law restricting your speaking. Other citizens can shout you down and otherwise try to prevent your speech being heard.

Not all speech is constitutionally protected (as illustrated by the age old example of yelling fire in a crowded movie theater).

Yes, I do think an artist should have absolute control over their work, where and when it is publicly exhibited and by whom. (As a former amateur musician, this is a topic near and dear to me.) Unfortunately for some artists, they relinquished that control when they signed the record company contract or sold their rights to the highest bidder. But no one forced them to do that.

I agree ... mostly. The only part I disagree with is the rationality of the need for a law [or mandate, etc.] in this particular case.

I agree with the current accepted interpretation of "free speech": as long as it is not a direct threat or inciting others to do harm, anything is fair game. As much as I'd personally like to silence "flat-earthers", etc. - I think the right to express one's opinion, no matter how stupid others may perceive it to be, is paramount.

Although my experience tells me no, I do not grant myself the authority to decide for others what they can or cannot intelligibly process.

I can't argue with that.

The Dangerous Appeal of Neil Young’s Righteous Censorship

https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...rship-00003923

I lost my coffee with the Tucker Carlson having a confusion enema look. Now I have to finish watching.

Why worry about some flippant remark Joe Rogan makes? It's nothing compared to the constant barrage of brainwashing we get daily from CNN, Sean Hannity, NPR, John Oliver, MSNBC, Fox News, the BBC, and a million others....

This is for all you emotional types. Step back for a moment, think, man up, grow a pair and fer chrissakes stop whining like little girls.

https://youtu.be/lOMqQXhCU4M

What happened to Mr. I’m so sad?

https://youtu.be/YGMnh0eMyEU

I don't even think he owns his own music anymore. This is virtue signal performance art. Look at how principled I am while I risk absolutely nothing.