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mapuc 05-16-22 01:42 PM

Thank you I forgot about the feeling sitting in a F1 car or in a rally car and feel the vibration from the engine.

Markus

Threadfin 05-16-22 01:54 PM

The state of force feedback today is remarkable, it really is. There are two main components -- the sim -- and how it handles FFB -- and the wheel you have, which have varying levels of fidelity when it comes to transmitting the feel of the tarmac to your hands.

But a good modern sim with a quality wheel is amazing. I dare say it would blow away someone who has not experienced what it is like today. Sims like rFactor2, Assetto Corsa Competizione and Automobilista Motorsport Simulator 2 all have fantastic FFB.

Without the wheel you can't feel it of course, but AMS2 has a free demo on Steam if you have any interest in seeing what is all about.

Skybird 05-16-22 05:20 PM

The trap is that the FFB has to be individually tuned for every wheelbase-sim combo. And when a sim introduces a new data set, or a hardware producers does a new firmware or driver, the hardware needs to be updated and then the data needs to be tuned in again with different values. If fell for that trap myself sometimes, too.

Same in VR, the gfx engine may have gotten an update of the underlying engine, say U4E, and in the VR helmet the image suddenly is way to dark and you have never heard of it, and then you start fuming in anger and despair since you do not get it fixed. Happened in ACC twice to me, I just did not know it that U4E had seen massive changes. The solution was to delete a certain complete folder. Until I learned that, I thought the sim were dead for me.

Also, nVidia driver options for VR sometimes need certain HIGHER values in setting to have a good VR experience and smooth frames and no stutterings - not lower settings, but higher ones! In ACC I had the problem when I switched to my newer helmet that the picture was laggy, stuttering, and I did not get it solved, also it was blurry. I had however reduced some settings in nVidia drivers of which I assumed they would kill frames if I keep them high, because the new helmet has 8 times as many pixels than the old one, and I did not replace the 1080 card. As soon as I moved up these settings - the stuttering vanished and since then ACC looks much better than it ever did befiore in the old helmet. And I thought I had lost aCC!

Finally, the temps in ACC initially almost killed my system, went into the high 90s with low car numbers. Danger zone! But Kunos worked wonders on post release optimizations. With a superiuor VR display and 8x more pixels I now can run 30 cars smooth and crispy without blurrings at temps that are typcial for gaming on this processor type, mid-70s or so.

So many things come together to get a good and working technical experience. Problem is that I cannot keep track of all these many things anymore as I could years back. I forget fixes again, faster, and more regular than in the past. Even forget that a fix exists. .. :hmmm:

Threadfin 05-18-22 12:20 PM

Hey, way to sell it Skybird :D


Yeah, there's truth to that, but it's no worse to me than getting set up for a good flight sim like Falcon or DCS or something. If it needs to be re-done with every update then yes that's an issue of course.

Skybird 05-20-22 10:17 AM

https://www.racedepartment.com/news/...nd-of-may.617/

All raceroom content free to access until end of May. Your opportunity to test all stuff out, namely tracks. (Cars can always be tested on the in-house track).

Skybird 05-25-22 06:37 AM

Realism also is about visual immersion.

I knew Semetin for AC in version 0.95 and have not driven it since years, and never have so in VR. Yesterday I learned about version 1.05, and last night drove it.

In VR.

A revelation. One of the most spectacular VR experience I have had since a long time, stunning, gorgious, beautiful, photorealistic. In VR this track is a blast, a supernova, a big bang.

There are quite a few extremely good, stunning tracks in AC moddings, this is one of the very best in the very top group. You wish you could stop, get out of the car, and walk around in that fresh, lush green nature scenery.

Long live VR. It was made for stuff like this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_cz57CO7Is

Threadfin 05-25-22 09:28 AM

Steam is running a racing sale with many good deals. AMS2 is half price. Assetto Corsa is marked down, rFactor2, some rally stuff.

I picked up all of the AC DLC, as I only had Dream Pack 1 which I got in 2016. For ten dollars I got all the rest and that's a good deal for what you get, especially if you like Porsche :)

Spent yesterday running the special events now that I have the cars and tracks to do them all. Some really cool car/track combinations and difficult targets to hit. Good stuff.

Skybird 06-13-22 05:41 PM

Another good one by Chris Haye. Tips for newbies.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceet6WpG3HE

Skybird 06-14-22 03:05 PM

Considering new hardware? Why not this? :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V94x4oud6tg

mapuc 06-14-22 05:58 PM

This guy here is one I follow while he play BeamNG.Drive

In this video he show his masterpiece

The setup or the talk about it starts around 6.30 into the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpUJv12LwoQ

Markus


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