All I wanted to indicate, mapuc, is that "Evolution" is nothing in itself, no seperate "something", with own existenmce. It has no9 goal, no intention, no self-existence, its just a name that we have invented for a way in whcih we sort our obersvations into an order that we have invented. Granted, I agree that this order we sort observations into makes prgamatic sense for our purpoises - but that is our intellect'S puüprioses only, and nobody and nothing else beyoind our own human intellect has even a clue on that thgere are some lifeforms who invented a word and attached it to the way the world around is going.


In this understanding, "evolution" does not exist. And thus it has no self-made creation, no in etion, no goal, no origin. Its our own mind chasing shadows in an attempt to allow us making us masters of our future fate by controll8ing the nevriuonem,nt we need to loie in better. Its like the rules for agme that we have invented, say "Monopoly". There is no "Monopoly" out there, it doe snto exist. Its a set of rules we have invehted to sort social itneraciton in a systamtical way that we call a "game". It has no exiostenc ebeyiond our agreement on these rules. And still, although it just is a fata morgana, a fiction, it still allows us to enjoy each other during the match (or not, this game can call grim emotions into life...).


The word for a thing is not the thing itself. The finger pointing to the moon is not the moon. Evolution is just a word with a menaign wer have invented - the real world sand i8ts ever-.changing dance is somethign different. And still our little brain trick allows us to make sense of it in an improved way so that we can form conceots and underdstandsiugnsd by which we hope to manipulate our living cionditioons and future fates to our advantage.


Science never describes absolute, tota, final truths or realities - to do that, it would need to be disconnected from the context of the universe which it reflects over, it would need to be not a part of the universe. But it is. The claims it raises, are always temporary. They last as long only as nobody shows up with better ways of explaining what we see and experience.


I say all this only becasue of your opening "evolution improving its creration". There is no creation by anyone, there is no intention to improve, there is no origin known to all this existence, and no holder of the experiene and no owner of the creation.


There is just the process. The dance.

Evolution is blind in a way that it is not directed into a certain direction. It can have positive or negative results.

So e.g. the genetical change of blood cells over generations to higher concentrations of sickle cells can have positive or negative results, depending in which environment you live. While it generally reduces life expectancy, it also helps against Malaria and dying of it in the short run.

New research has shown that some genetical changes can indeed happen during the life of an organism, not in the way Lamarque had described it, but in a more restricted way. This will be interesting, especially in the appropriate biological warfare labs of certain beloved governments.

There's one thing I have discovered when it comes to us human

We have very high thoughts about our self.
Nothing wrong with a dosis confidence now and then.

But I get the feeling that people think if we should be extinct - Nature will collapse.

Markus

When it comes to the planet, humans are certainly non-essential :03:

I'm sorry but I am not doing a very good job of explaining my point of view. And you are right, evolution does not stop. The point I am trying to make is that the human species has moved to a point of evolution/development that no other species has. We are aware of who we are and how we got to this point and we are now actively taking part in our own evolution/development.

Yep, maybe the most dangerous weapon in our hands is neither a nuclear warhead nor VX but CRISPR.

Well, we can define evolution as a mechanism that preserves (useful) information. Apparently mankind has developed techniques to pass on knowledge to the next generation and this process is often referred to as "cultural evolution". I must admit, I don't like the expression.

There is no Empirical evidence We descended from the Neanderthal.
Last I heard was that that was a seperate line and some people have traces of the Neanderthal genes.
Probably from a funky night near a camp fire.

At that time the Neanderthalers were a bit more intelligent than what was to become Homo sapiens much later, so why not breed with them.

Obviously there were no laws against it at the time.
:haha:
Try humping a Chimpanzee today and see how fast you go to jail!
:har:

To hospital rather, if you're lucky. Adult Chimpanzees are killing machines.