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Originally Posted by yubba (Post 2444666)

The way Hillary let Russia have 20% of our uranium,,

Where to start? Where to start.

1. The decision was made by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS). There are nine agencies and directorates that make up the CFIUS. The Chair is held by the Department of the Treasury.

2. The CFIUS can NOT veto or prevent the transaction. Only the President can stop the transaction. The CFIUS only provides advice and manages the interrelationships between various organizations.

3. Clinton was not on the CFIUS. Assistant Secretary of State Jose Fernandez was the State Department representative. He has stated that Clinton was not part of any deliberations nor did she intervene at any time.

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 2444769)

Maybe we should start here,,this looks to be a good read,, http://ijr.com/2015/04/305269-2-hill...lions-dollars/

here's another good read,, from a liberal rag.,https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-uranium-deal/

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Originally Posted by yubba (Post 2444767)

Or I could hit you in the face,, and then convince you I didn't do it,, and if you tried to say something about it ,, I'd just say it's a conspiracy theory,, see how that works.

Is there supposed to be some sort of logic hiding in there somewhere? If so, I must congratulate you on your skills in the art of camouflage. :Kaleun_Applaud:

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Originally Posted by yubba (Post 2444777)

here's another good read,, from a liberal rag.,https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-uranium-deal/

Interesting:

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The Pinocchio Test

Trump and his campaign claim that Clinton “gave” or “handed over” 20 percent of American uranium rights to the Russians. Through the Uranium One deal, the Russian state-owned nuclear energy company does now have control over 20 percent of U.S. uranium extraction capacity. But it cannot export the uranium.

In 2010, the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States approved the sale of the majority of the shares to the Russians. The State Department was one of nine agencies on the committee that approved the deal. The deal was also separately approved by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission.

There is no evidence Clinton herself got involved in the deal personally, and it is highly questionable that this deal even rose to the level of the secretary of state. Theoretically, as Schweizer says, Clinton could have intervened. But even then, it ultimately would have been Obama’s decision whether to suspend or block the deal.

We wavered between Three and Four Pinocchios. Trump so often uses broad-brushed language that pushes him into Four Pinocchio territory, and this is yet another one of those cases. He specifically names Hillary Clinton as the active agent in the Uranium One deal, saying she “gave them” or “handed over” uranium to the Russians, but that is not the case. Then, he further claimed the sale went forward in exchange “for a big payment.” There’s no evidence for that claim either.

Trump could have avoided so many Pinocchios had he been more careful with the language. For example: “Hillary Clinton’s State Department was one of nine agencies that approved the deal.” Words matter.

As you say, the Washington Post is a 'liberal rag'. I'm glad to see you find their analysis of Trump's casual disregard for little details like actually getting the facts right to be of such value, despite your apparent dislike of their political leanings.

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Originally Posted by AndyJWest (Post 2444780)

Interesting:

As you say, the Washington Post is a 'liberal rag'. I'm glad to see you find their analysis of Trump's casual disregard for little details like actually getting the facts right to be of such value, despite your apparent dislike of their political leanings.

Do you think he actually reads it before he posts it? :hmmm:

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Originally Posted by AndyJWest (Post 2444779)

Is there supposed to be some sort of logic hiding in there somewhere? If so, I must congratulate you on your skills in the art of camouflage. :Kaleun_Applaud:

It's called gaslighting son,, it's what this corrupt government is doing too you, sorta like you getting caught with your hand in the cookie jar ,, and mom says are you stealing cookies and you say no.

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Originally Posted by yubba (Post 2444791)

Firstly, I am not your 'son', and I suspect I may be some years older than you: lose the patronising attitude. Secondly it isn't my government: we have our own brand of ego-driven political elite this side of the Atlantic. And thirdly, if you want to win arguments, I suggest you start providing some evidence to back them up, rather than spamming this forum with vacuous drivel and links to articles which state the exact opposite of what you seem to think they do.

So where did that 20% of uranium go,,http://www.infowars.com/clinton-foun...of-us-uranium/

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Originally Posted by yubba (Post 2444793)

So where did that 20% of uranium go,,http://www.infowars.com/clinton-foun...of-us-uranium/

If you'd bothered to read the Washington Post article you posted a link to, you'd know...

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Originally Posted by AndyJWest (Post 2444792)

spam ,, well that's better than using the race card,, you wouldn't know spam from potted meat,.,, and you don't even realize that you are being invaded ,, now that's funny,, that's what we call being gaslighted

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Originally Posted by AndyJWest (Post 2444794)

If you'd bothered to read the Washington Post article you posted a link to, you'd know...

I'm asking you..

Go away, you silly little man.

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Originally Posted by yubba (Post 2444793)

So where did that 20% of uranium go,,http://www.infowars.com/clinton-foun...of-us-uranium/

Aaaand here comes Infowars!

So, how's the mandatory viewing of 12 years a slave in order to 'control children in government internment camps - also known as public schools' coming along?

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2444798)

well he's got more views than CNN,,, CNN?? Who ???

I'm sure there's good money to be made spewing forth deranged conspiracy theories you don't actually believe in yourself to gullible fools who think that giving credence such claptrap makes them look intelligent. All-American free enterprise at its best!

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Originally Posted by yubba (Post 2444804)

well he's got more views than CNN,,, CNN?? Who ???

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2444851)

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Sir, do you know how fast that bull was going?

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 2444868)

Sir, do you know how fast that bull was going?

:har::har::har::har::har:

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Does anyone actually believe what Trump says, in his "speeches" :o