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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves (Post 2313745)

... You can't build a wall big enuff to keep the determined out.
That's why they have fences around grave yards.
People are dieing to get in!

:rotfl2::up:

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves (Post 2313745)

It's what SEALS and other covert Units train for.
So Yes.
You can't build a wall big enuff to keep the determined out.
That's why they have fences around grave yards.
People are dieing to get in!

http://i.imgur.com/EvrcQDE.jpg

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2313735)

OBL was financed by Saudi Arabia all the time, if they bribed or blackmailed pakistani officials or whoever does not matter, this is all business as usual. Before that Osama was also financed by the US, as long as he acted as a terrorist against the Soviet Union, in Afghanistan.

So why then has the US such good relations with Saudi Arabia? A country that is famous for breeding the worst islamic hardliners, supports terrorism, uses slaves, where women have no rights, and gives a s. to any values the west proclaims it has?

We can only speculate the Saudi Arabian government is directly supporting terrorism against the United States and its allies. Additionally none of us knows for sure what Hersch said is true either. All I was saying is, IF it were true that an officer brought forth evidence which directly linked the Pakistani government to providing support and refuge to an enemy of the state. Such information would have placed both countries in a bad light and raised a truck load of questions. Namely why is the United States allied with a country whose governement is knowingly harboring our enemy number one. If what Hersch said was true I thnk it likely the US told a different story in an attempt to avoid such embarrassment .

The question was asked who is telling the truth and who is lying. Like everyone else I'm just having fun speculating based on a bunch of what ifs.

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Oh yes the west including Germany builds hotels there, a lot of money is always the excuse, isn't it.
What else than oil and influence to hold others in the middle east in check, could be the answer?

i agree money, oil, control, greed, vanity no doubt influence a lot of decisions.

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Who does Saudi Arabia currently finance, in the terrorist world?

I havent the faintist idea :)

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Originally Posted by mapuc (Post 2313743)

A military question

Can a group of Navy Seals "invade" a country while it's military is at standard alert(don't know the correct word for it) without being detected ?

I presume the military in Pakistan was not in some high alert mode at that time.

Markus

yes they have the capability, but these are always very high risk missions, just a few months later the Taliban shot down a Helicopter in a similar raid killing 38, including 15 SEALs from the same team that raided OBL's compound.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Ch...in_Afghanistan

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves (Post 2313745)

It's what SEALS and other covert Units train for.
So Yes.
You can't build a wall big enuff to keep the determined out.
That's why they have fences around grave yards.
People are dieing to get in!

Thank you for your answer. I had waited for such an answer. Our own special units in Denmark and Sweden are also trained for this. However Sweden and England has also specieal trained units to catch these elits like soldiers from Navy Seals. I don't know about Denmark.

I guess these units are only in "battle mode" in case of a war or a crisis. And in some exercises.

Could Pakistan have such a unit ?

Markus

Most countries have 'special' forces but the skills/standards/capabilities must differ to some extent and are obviously open to individual opinion.