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Dread Knot 10-02-14 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ikalugin (Post 2248093)
I guess then that people who exit their house once in a month and use advanced water filtering are about as well protected from a mass epidemic as it gets.

p.s. I have calculated that to keep a yearly supply for a 5 man fammily in the form of army MRE type stuff (in Russia) it would cost onself around 120145 rubles 83 kopecs per month, not something I could afford with my pocket money :*( .

Could be a tad dull, but it sounds like it would work. Other than the possible risk of a vitamin D deficiency from being out of the sun for so long.

But there are ways around that. You don't even have to stand around a sunlamp anymore. :sunny: I'd take the loss of D over the threat of E anyday.

http://img1.cookinglight.timeinc.net...itamin_d-m.jpg

Rockstar 10-02-14 11:02 AM

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TO THE CONGRESS of the United States:
In 1830 there were one billion people on the planet earth. By 1930 there were two billion, and by 1960 there were three billion. Today the world population is three and one-half billion persons.

These statistics illustrate the dramatically increasing rate of population growth. It took many thousands of years to produce the first billion people; the next billion took a century; the third came after thirty years; the fourth will be produced in just fifteen.

If this rate of population growth continues, it is likely that the earth will contain over seven billion human beings by the end of this century. Over the next thirty years, in other words, the world's population could double. And at the end of that time, each new addition of one billion persons would not come over the millennia nor over a century nor even over a decade. If present trends were to continue until the year 2000, the eighth billion would be added in only five years and each additional billion in an even shorter period.

While there are a variety of opinions as to precisely how fast population will grow in the coming decades, most informed observers have a similar response to all such projections. They agree that population growth is among the most important issues we face. They agree that it can be met only if there is a great deal of advance planning. And they agree that the time for such planning is growing very short. It is for all these reasons that I address myself to the population problem in this message, first to its international dimensions and then to its domestic implications.
National Security Study Memorandum (NSSM) 200
http://pdf.usaid.gov/pdf_docs/PCAAB500.pdf

Let the conspiracy theories BEGIN!

Dread Knot 10-02-14 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar (Post 2248122)
National Security Study Memorandum (NSSM) 200
http://pdf.usaid.gov/pdf_docs/PCAAB500.pdf

Let the conspiracy theories BEGIN!

Somewhat ironic since the widespread belief in certain Western Africa countries that the disease itself is a made up conspiracy to tax them and control their movements is helping contribute to it's spread.

An unchecked Ebola pandemic is what will happen if all the crackpots get people to believe them - because you can bet on the crackpots, or the more vociferous of them, claiming sooner or later that Ebola does not exist and is really a government plot to poison you with an ostensible vaccine or remedy.

ikalugin 10-02-14 11:35 AM

I think one of the better conspiracies is the one that relates the region's mineral wealth to the current ebola outbreak and the well known international efforts to weapon is ebola.

Which is quite amusing since I think US us the only nation that was openly developing a cure for it (ie it was working with ebola).

Rockstar 10-02-14 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dread Knot (Post 2248124)
Somewhat ironic since the widespread belief in certain Western Africa countries that the disease itself is a made up conspiracy to tax them and control their movements is helping contribute to it's spread.

An unchecked Ebola pandemic is what will happen if all the crackpots get people to believe them - because you can bet on the crackpots, or the more vociferous of them, claiming sooner or later that Ebola does not exist and is really a government plot to poison you with an ostensible vaccine or remedy.

Ok this took me two minutes to dream up.
Though not even hinted at or mentioned as a means to lower global population, Ebola was 'discovered' shortly after NSSM 200 and the World Population Plan of Action were written. Ebola I suppose could be looked upon as a relatively quick killer (humane), also as a natural cause of death instead of man made 'showers'. It does appear to burn out on its own, unless new hosts are provided (Dallas, Belgium). And if the will to do so is there, it can be isolated and treated easily. Thats my conspiracy theory :woot:

Oberon 10-02-14 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dread Knot (Post 2248124)
Somewhat ironic since the widespread belief in certain Western Africa countries that the disease itself is a made up conspiracy to tax them and control their movements is helping contribute to it's spread.

An unchecked Ebola pandemic is what will happen if all the crackpots get people to believe them - because you can bet on the crackpots, or the more vociferous of them, claiming sooner or later that Ebola does not exist and is really a government plot to poison you with an ostensible vaccine or remedy.

Yup, Ebola really is one of the easier ones to contain, a global outbreak is unlikely to occur unless it mutates which is possible but not highly likely.

vienna 10-02-14 12:02 PM

The news reports I've heard have noted the Ebola patient had gone to the Texas hospital Emergency Room (ER) and had been sent home with some antibiotics, even though he openly informed the attending medical staff he had just come from an Ebola stricken country. The failure of the ER staff to adequately take extra precautions is now being called into question. I am now wondering if the hospital/medical facility will be fined. There is a little known provision of the Affordable Care Act ("Obama Care") providing for fines for care facilities who inadequately treat ER patients in such a manner as to require the patient to return to the ER for further treatment (i.e., 'not getting it right the first time'). The purpose was two-fold: to prevent shoddy medical treatment and to reduce the number of ER visits thereby saving medical costs. This provision has already proven effective; some ERs are already reporting a significant decrease in return visits, and, in a number of cases, ERs have been able to reduce staff due to reduced need, saving the medical facilities money. I noticed the difference during my last ER visit (I suffer from chronic pancreatitis that sometimes flares up to very serious levels). The level of testing and care was far greater than I had experienced on a couple of previous visits and had the added advantage of confirming a condition my regular physician had been reluctant to entertain. If the Texas facility is not fined, I would consider that to be a serious mistake...


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Oberon 10-02-14 01:30 PM

But...but Obama care is bad! :O:

Seriously though, if this guy was sent home again then someones head needs to roll, if this was a more infectious disease then that would have increased the spread of it quite dramatically.

Dread Knot 10-02-14 02:18 PM

As disturbing as it's sudden presence here in the U.S. is, I'd be just as spooked if Ebola reared it's head in one of those massive Syrian refugee camps, the Gaza Strip or on an African migrant boat attempting to land in Italy or Spain. :o Basically, anywhere where medical service is over stretched or non-existent.

However, in all probability, given the length of the journey and the conditions prevalent, it'd probably spread like wildfire around the migrant boat and be blatantly obvious to any European coast guard vessel.

ikalugin 10-02-14 02:32 PM

Except that the whole point of those illegal imigration runs is to avoid the scutiny by the coastal guard/border control agencies.

Dread Knot 10-02-14 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ikalugin (Post 2248170)
Except that the whole point of those illegal imigration runs is to avoid the scutiny by the coastal guard/border control agencies.

That thought does make a chill run up my spine.

Dread Knot 10-02-14 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 2248177)
So Liberia is planning on prosecuting this individual.
Though in his defence maybe he didn't lie, after all pushing a wheelbarrow with an ebola victim in it could be viewed as not being in contact with an ebola victim as he would only be in contact with the wheelbarrow :nope:

In the midst of a serious and overwhelming epidemic it's good to see they have their priorities straight. :88)

mapuc 10-02-14 03:24 PM

In the name of democracy we kill thousands....

Markus

Skybird 10-02-14 03:41 PM

80 to 100 persons in the US now under monitoring.

Because of just one patient.

Do some math, and what you get is a logistical nightmare.

Oberon 10-02-14 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2248201)
80 to 100 persons in the US now under monitoring.

Because of just one patient.

Do some math, and what you get is a logistical nightmare.

Compared to the logistical nightmare in West Africa, it's peanuts, and peanuts with ample financial backing and healthcare to boot...providing the healthcare doesn't kick them back out again that is. :/\\!!

ikalugin 10-02-14 03:49 PM

Now immagine what would happen if Ebola hits India.

Oberon 10-02-14 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ikalugin (Post 2248205)
Now immagine what would happen if Ebola hits India.

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/d7/d762...80450357ce.jpg

Dread Knot 10-02-14 04:18 PM

Getting spooked now. Might be time for the LOL cat of death...

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/1432464640/h81D7FBF0/

Or maybe it's the BOC cat of death, I'm not sure.

vienna 10-02-14 04:37 PM

Needs more cowbell...


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Rockstar 10-02-14 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird (Post 2248201)
80 to 100 persons in the US now under monitoring.

Because of just one patient.

Do some math, and what you get is a logistical nightmare.

80 to 100 infected by one patient who legally entered the country isn't too bad. But like everyone else we have many more coming in not so legally going who knows where afterwards.


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