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Hottentot 10-02-12 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1943096)
I think it does. While we always have politically-based argument on the boards, and some of it quite heated, it doesn't normally come with a side dish of crazy outside of election time.

Hmm, a fair point. The latter seems to have increased lately. I was more thinking along the lines that certain individuals have already for a long time made it clear that Subsim is their personal agitprop channel (and horribly ineffective one at that, I might add), and it's not like the date, the position of Venus or the pineapple harvest of Nowherestan is going to change that.

Bubblehead1980 10-02-12 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1943044)
They said that more than one hundred years ago, about the Irish and the Italians. You've now fallen to repeating long-standing racist comments and sentiments.


Nor do you, with your abominable writing and communication skills. You still haven't learned to discuss things with reason.

Steve, it is an internet discussion forum, not a term paper, don't be a nazi.

I did not make racist statements, I pointed out the persians in one of my classes smell, did not say all do but it is kind of a running joke how so many do.While not "pc", one can not deny the sad ramifications of immigrants overflowing an area.This occurred in my hometown after Hurricane Ivan in 2004, a lot of hispanics moved in(mostly illegals) for the work, they all seemed to stay in one area near the interstate.Before long a burger king had turned into a taco place, 3 or 4 other mexican restaurants popped up and a vacant chinese place turned into a latino nightclub.Guess what? crime went way up over there.I went on ride alongs with a friend who is a Deputy there and saw it first hand and heard all about it.Luckily, since we areeight years out, most of them have moved on.The only good thing they left behind is the one mexican restaurant, it's delicious.

People get blinded by their need to be "tolerant" and "pc", they fail to see the dangerous ramifications of demographic shifts long term and the peril they can mean for the country.I am for legal immigration but it needs to be tightly controlled, especially to prevent long term problems.The US is far too welcoming.

Nothing I said is racist, I do not dislike someone based on their origins or skin color but on what their presence en masse does to my country.The only people who have a RIGHT to be here are CITIZENS, no one else in the world is entitled to come here, no matter how desperate their situation is.

Bubblehead1980 10-02-12 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1943061)
A couple of months ago, I was thinking about how calm everyone had been this cycle. I'm glad I didn't say anything, as since then we've had daily conspiracy rants from yubba, 1480's call for a military coup to oust the President and presumably run the nation, and now young Bubblehead's blatent racism. If I were to make a compilation of this stuff we could call it Republicans Gone Wild.

Is it November yet?


I was not being racist as I pointed out to Steve.I pointed out the persians in my class smell, falling in line with the often repeated stereotype.I dislike them not because they are persian but because they fail to adopt basic hygiene.I also have concerns more deserving students may have not been admitted because of affirmative action.I could have been one of the unlucky ones who despite having better credentials, could have been passed over.There in is the problem with affirmative action(expressed by many minorities) that no matter what they achieve, people always think they did not earn it.I have formed this opinion as none of them ever seem to really be in tune with whats going on in class and when they do try to answer a question aloud or form an opinion well it's amusing.Obviously they are not stupid but cann't help but think others more deserving were passed over to fill a quota.:/\\!!

Worrying about demographic shifts that could alter this country is not racist, its a legitimate concern.

Tribesman 10-02-12 05:02 PM

I did not make racist statements
Nothing I said is racist
I was not being racist
:har::har::har::har::har::har::har:
well done bubbles, keep it up

Stealhead 10-02-12 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1943186)

Nothing I said is racist, I do not dislike someone based on their origins or skin color but on what their presence en masse does to my country.The only people who have a RIGHT to be here are CITIZENS, no one else in the world is entitled to come here, no matter how desperate their situation is.

Not like you care about others opinions but..


By what you say almost everyone in the US has no right to be here because very few persons living in the US can prove that their lineage comes purely from someone say from the time when the US declared itself a nation.Perhaps 1% of Americans can say that.

Now of course we will see your Joseph Goebbels style spin in reaction.You are just laden with self loathing seeing as how you feel that everyone is against you and is a "smelly" immigrant or a pinko commie or some other thing that you have in your head that is against you and what you claim to be your kind all one of you.

You make blatantly racist remarks yet claim not be to racist.You sit and talk about people being politically correct well then stop doing it yourself and say what you really think in stead of thinly and poorly veiling it just say that your racist and that you hate people that are different from you in any way you clearly feel this way as your posts here display even though try to claim other wise.

Takeda Shingen 10-02-12 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1943192)
Worrying about demographic shifts that could alter this country is not racist, its a legitimate concern.

Legitimate if you are a racist yes. Demographic shift over time has been distinctly American.

http://tigger.uic.edu/~rjensen/nina.jpg

Unfortunately, so have been attitudes like your's.

Stealhead 10-02-12 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1943210)
Legitimate if you are a racist yes. Demographic shift over time has been distinctly American.

http://tigger.uic.edu/~rjensen/nina.jpg

Unfortunately, so have been attitudes like your's.


He wont even read it 10 bucks says that he scans it and assumes that it is related to slavery and starts on some rant about white mans burden.
seeing as he thinks he is going to be a big WASP some day.

Bet he wont even read my post and get the heads up and still does not see what you want him see.


$20 says that he does read and still posts some utter nonsense.

$50 says that he does not respond at all but that is not likely.If no response here he starts another rant thread.

That is what the worlds smallest violinist says and he plays for Bubblehead very often.

http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/...psb3e07d34.jpg

Takeda Shingen 10-02-12 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead (Post 1943211)


He wont even read it 10 bucks says that he scans it and assumes that it is related to slavery and starts on some rant about white mans burden.
seeing as he thinks he is going to be a big WASP some day.

Bet he wont even read my post and get the heads up and still does not see what you want him see.

$20 says that he does read and still posts some utter nonsense.

$50 says that he does not respond at all but that is not likely.If no response here he starts another rant thread.

That is what the worlds smallest violinist says and he plays for Bubblehead very often.

http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/...psb3e07d34.jpg

I was very much amused by his reply to you in which he labeled the Native Americans a conquered people and then likened them to Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. He should run for office.

Stealhead 10-02-12 06:02 PM

Savages get what they deserve right? The Nazi genocide was much less successful than the one against the native Americans.


I went to a good friends grandfathers funeral last year in South Dakota.He was a Corneal in the USAF and fought in WWII with the AAF in stead of
Arlington he wanted to buried near his old home in SD.The honor guard where Lakota Sioux veterans not only did they show up but about 50 other
Lakota vets also where there they gave him the full military honors and then a traditional Lakota warrior honoring.It was the most emotional and inspiring
funeral I have ever witnessed.These Lakota did not even know personally who they where burying and honoring yet they showed up.

They must not have been the Laktoa Yubba mentioned.For many Native Americans at least ones that serve in the military the reasoning is that their nation
is inside the US and is allowed to exist by the goverment so if the US falls so does their nation a mutual respect.

Sailor Steve 10-02-12 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980 (Post 1943186)
Steve, it is an internet discussion forum, not a term paper, don't be a nazi.

You said certain people don't come across as very bright. You need to do so yourself if you want to say that about others. Pot, kettle.

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I did not make racist statements, I pointed out the persians in one of my classes smell
And I didn't address that. I quoted the specific comments I was answering, and you avoided them.

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Nothing I said is racist
You don't even see it, do you? As I've told you a dozen times before, it's not what you say, it's how you say it.

And you still don't get it.

Agiel7 10-03-12 05:19 AM

Angeleno here. There are indeed quite a lot of Persians here in LA and two of my closest friends are Iranian. No need to panic; while many are proud of their heritage, they have little to no love for Ahmedinejad or the Ayatollahs (in fact, by and large they think they're crooks) and think that the Embassy crisis hostage-takers are a disgrace to Iranians everywhere.

Bubblehead1980 10-04-12 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Agiel7 (Post 1943418)
Angeleno here. There are indeed quite a lot of Persians here in LA and two of my closest friends are Iranian. No need to panic; while many are proud of their heritage, they have little to no love for Ahmedinejad or the Ayatollahs (in fact, by and large they think they're crooks) and think that the Embassy crisis hostage-takers are a disgrace to Iranians everywhere.


I am sure, I was not saying they are terrorists etc I was expressing a larger concern of the dangerous demographic shifts we ALLOW as it is a real threat to our country from the inside out.Sure, I did not use pc language or whatever, but that was my point.I know Steve, it's how I said it.

Tribesman 10-04-12 02:09 AM

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I am sure, I was not saying they are terrorists etc
More bullexcrement from the racist plonker:yawn:

Hottentot 10-04-12 07:49 AM

Reminds me of a paper I wrote on discussion regarding degeneration in 1900 to 1929. It was four years ago and I still remember vividly the article which "proved" that in 30 years all people will be alcoholics, thieves, drooling morons and physically incapable of doing almost anything. This was supposed to be a huge threat to the society and the scientific truth, because the numbers supported it all.

Guess which numbers they were referring to?

Tribesman 10-04-12 08:06 AM

Is that the one on the working class who live in towns?

Hottentot 10-04-12 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1943843)
Is that the one on the working class who live in towns?

Precisely. "The industrial work requires so little wits and physical condition that these days anyone can feed a family" was an often repeated line. Along with how towns are the source of all evil anyway, with workers gambling and drinking all their money away.

And since both people living in towns as well as people working in factories were a growing part of the society, degeneration was bound to happen.

Demographic shifts and all that.


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