I think he might have slipped over time he earned a masters in 2010 and spent some time looking for work without success then he enrolled in a phd program in CO that is very demanding and he was not doing well in the courses and ended up with drawing from the course.

Seems like this Holmes was a fairly successful student and ran into trouble it is also possible that he had mental issues that people where not even aware of and the stress of his recent failures caused mental issues that perhaps he had been able to restrain over take him.


I am not saying that is an excuse and even if he has serious mental issues he can still know right from wrong.Just because someone is a "nutcase" does not mean that they cant plan a course of action in their mind the goal seems logical.I personally do not think that any person simply "snaps" it is a process that takes time months or even years and they might plan for a long time before they act before they have the complete will to act.

@Jimbuna just because a state has the death penalty does not mean that they will carry it out. California has death but no man on death row has been put to death since 2006.Compare that to Texas and Florida FL executed an inmate in April 2012.Texas put a man to death just a few days ago.Colorado last put a man to death in 1997.In some states it is really symbolic(stupid if you ask me) in ohters you actually will be dead man walking.Some in Florida and Texas have only spent 2 or 3 years on death row.

His actions may already prove in the end he wasn't actually insane :hmm2:

Colorado reinstated the death penalty in 1975 as Jim pointed out, but they\we have only executed one person since then, and we have 3 criminals currently on death row.
I predict this guy will get a death sentence, but whether it is ever carried out is questionable.

To qualify for the death sentence in Colorado you need only establish one of the following criteria. #12 certainly is in play here.

Colorado-
(1)The murder was especially heinous, atrocious, cruel, or depraved (or involved torture)
(2) The defendant knowingly created a grave risk of death for one or more persons in addition to the victim of the offense
(3) The defendant killed the victim while lying in wait
(4) The murder was committed for pecuniary gain or pursuant to an agreement that the defendant would receive something of value
(5)The defendant caused or directed another to commit murder, or the defendant procured the commission of the offense by payment, promise of payment, or anything of pecuniary value
(6) The murder was committed to avoid or prevent arrest, to effect an escape, or to conceal the commission of a crime
(7) The defendant has been convicted of, or committed, a prior murder, a felony involving violence, or other serious felony
(8) The capital offense was committed by a person who is incarcerated, has escaped, is on probation, is in jail, or is under a sentence of imprisonment
(9) The victim was a government employee, including peace officers, police officers, federal agents, firefighters, judges, jurors, defense attorneys, and prosecutors, in the course of his or her duties
(10) The victim was an elected or appointed official or former official of the federal government, or local or state government, and the killing intentionally prevented the victim's official duties
(11)The murder was committed against a person held as a shield, as a hostage, or for ransom
(12)The defendant used chemical, biological, or radiological weapons and/or the person intentionally killed more than one person in one criminal episode
(13)The victim was a pregnant woman and the defendant intentionally killed the victim, knowing she was pregnant
(14)The defendant committed treason
(15)The defendant's possession of the weapon used to commit the class 1 felony constituted a felony offense under the laws of the state
(16)The defendant intentionally killed more than one person in more than one criminal episode
(17)The defendant committed the class 1 felony against the victim because of the victim's race, color, ancestry, religion or national origin

What method is used in carrying out the death sentence?

lethal injection

Well Holmes falls under 1,2,and 12. I am surprised that there is not a specific code for the murder of a child.In Florida you can get death for severe sexual assault of a person under the age of 13 even if the victim does not die.

Terminology changes with attitudes and time. Ninety-five years ago my bolt-action 03 Springfield was not only an assault rifle, it was the assault rifle of choice for the U.S. Army.

Has anybody heard how he was actually caught? Was he running towards his car to get away? I haven't heard or read anything on that. I knew he gave up without a struggle, but nothing more then that so far.

I believe he was just standing outside that exit by his car and surrendered when approached by officers. There was no struggle or incident.

According to a few sources he was outside and some law enforcement saw him and at first thought he was another SWAT but something about his kit was off and they stopped him.

Also he tried to join a gun range but the owner who Holmes had contacted by e-mail disliked how his voice mail sounded he advised his staff that if Holmes ever showed up at the range that he was to speak with Holmes immediately he felt something was off with Holmes based on the nature of his voice mail.

The 100 round magazine jammed on Holmes and he did not know how to un jam the weapon which very likely saved some lives good thing he did not buy 30 round magazines as they are highly reliable.

It sounds to as though Holmes planned to actually escape by blending in with the cops.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...N2W_story.html

Read the first two pages it will stop you at the 4th page unless you create an account which is free but you can read it once without having to do so.

Rgr that, cheers.

According to BBC and Sky News he was squatting next to his vehicle and offered no resistance to the arresting officers.

While I agree that (generally speaking) assault rifles are military in application, Gun control really isn't an answer. If someone has malice intent, they will get a gun one way or another. All gun control really does, is make it harder for law abiding people to protect themselves. Anyone with malice thought isn't exactly law abiding, they'll get their firearm in the end.

One thought is, if there were more people with concealed carry permits, random shooters like this guy (and the many others like him over the years) wouldn't get very far.

edit:
Skybirds accurate here i think. The best gun control advocates could hope for is another assault rifle ban, but that's not exactly going to stop bad people. They'll use another gun, or they'll get their assault rifle by means other then walking into a gun store. If guns were to really be snuffed out here in America, gun control would have had to been exercised when we were still a British colony. For us, intergration of firearms into our culture started then, and continues to this day with the added iconic imagery from minutemen, to mountain men, to cowboys and the wild west, the list goes on. We are unique among nations in this regard i think.

WTF???????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2du74Rqif1k :nope:

I've never seen this before. It really saddens me. REALLY.

Video game? How is simulated public massacre able to be passed off as a video game? It looks like a common console game; xbox etc.

We're not talking an obscure niche here, this is mainstream stuff your kids have probibly played.

While I don't think this'll make your little johny reach for an asualt rifle I don't think there is any denying it can influence feeble/unstable minds?

Personally im just surprised they'd risk a possible public backlash on that part. of course this games been out for awhile. So any stink that was to be raised probably already was. Or, some future news article will do some expose on violence in video games (again), and cite it as an example.


The call of duty series is the very definition of generic First Person shooter now.

If kids have played it, they shouldn't have. Games aren't just made for kids anymore, but adults too. COD:MW2 has an ESRB rating of M, for Mature.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_of...dern_Warfare_2
http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.jsp

So its basically synonymous with a rated R movie. So letting your kid play a rated M video game, is like letting them watch a rated R movie. The funny thing is, many parents are more informed about movies then they are games, so they don't censor their kids games like their kids movies.

Mental stabilty isn't age specific, so yeah i guess so.

Assault rifles are available if Johnny wants one.

It was exercised then, or at least attempted. That's what started the shooting war in the first place.

So what your saying is, gun control NEVER had a chance. :O:

Have you seen Holmes in court? Looks wasted,lol I think its dawning on him as to how much trouble he is in,lol The video of him in court is in the middle of this page, red hair and all!!

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...ourtroom?lite/