So here natural selection comes into play....that's way smart people want as many idiots as possible to be alive.:haha:

Speaking of everyday activities being dangerous I wonder how many people have died from choking to death because they tried to swallow too large a morsel?

In head-on collision - guess where that idiot not wearing seatbelt is going to?

Thats right - directly to you or your passenger.

If not wearing seatbelt would only cause harm to person refusing to use it I wouldn't care. Unfortunately they are danger to others when accidents happen and are most likely causing the society unnecessary expense.

I don't mind if they pay that potential extra expense in fines beforehand.

It's not all just about the risk to the individual. I guarantee you over 50% of MC riders have no kind of insurance to cover the medical bills when they crack their skulls. You and I are paying from them.

Now, if we agree to a system where the first responders check the injured party for insurance, I would be ok with no helmet law.

"He looks pretty bad, broken leg, shoulder, probable concussion and head injuries. Bob, check his driver's license, does he have the medical insurance box checked?"

"No, George, he does not. Apparently he can afford a $28,000 Harley, $40 HD shirt, $20 doo-rag, and some pretty extensive tattoo work, but he didn't think it was important to pay for insurance or a helmet."

"Ah, well, let's go. (shouts at downed rider) Good luck, buddy!"

The "wallet biopsy" they do not do that and I argue that such a thing would discriminate against any person who lacks medical insurance.Should a 6 year old kid receive no aid if his arm gets broken and his parents have no insurance?

Now if you mean a "wallet biopsy" on a person who clearly has the coin that is a different story.

I know they don't do a wallet biopsy, that's my point :) Six year old rarely take their Harley on the street, either.

And if you can't allocate your income to have insurance but you can afford a motorcycle, you have no business riding.

This is true and riding is a fairly expensive hobby if you have the proper gear you should be able to afford the insurance.I understand that some people ride and do not even have a license.

A paramedic friend of mine he works for volusia county (Daytona Beach Bike Week) he says that cops bust people for no motorcycle endorsement or motorcycle only license all the time.Last year he saw a dead rider and his dead wife he lacked the required license and the crash was his fault as well oh and they also had skulls for helmets or what was left of them.

I feel the same when i look ahead and imagine the posibilty of a crash. The panel of the car looks hard to crash into. When i drive first thing i do is to remember myself the dangers and if i'm concetrated enough. People tend to soften precautions over time. Also, with today technology cars can be made safer, imho i say the cars are not safe enough, still too much deaths by accidents.

My father's life was saved because he did not wear a seatbelt when he rolled his Thunderbird. But he wears a seatbelt every time he drives. :yep:

That might be because in an old Thunderbird getting tossed out was about the only thing that might save you.:haha:

Assuming it was a 1950's T-bird it might not have had a belt and I doubt the safety of those early lap belts isn't that why they got rid of them in back seats in the early 90s because they found that they where actually causing injuries.

I know a former schoolmate that was the passenger in a 94 Camaro the person driving lost control at a very high speed over 120mph according to the Highway Patrol investigation and this guy claims that he took his belt off and jumped out the window because he knew that the car was going to get totally destroyed and he with it.(the cops did not believe his claim of taking the belt off)
Now that might not be entirely true I think that that is how he recalls it but that he really did not have on a seat belt and just got thrown out as the car rolled but it took a few turns because his right hand finder tips got cut off or burned off by the car/road surface he also got lucky because the car was on a swampy road with soft muddy shoulders.The driver did not have a belt on either I think that the passenger just got very lucky and got tossed out in such a manner that he landed in the soft muddy ditch he probably would have died if he had stayed in the car because his body would have hit the drivers body along with every hard surface inside the car.The Camaro was almost unrecognizable as being a Camaro.