Never said it was sick and I have nothing against them getting married all I am saying is that that doest seem right that's all.
Oh BTW your not one of them are you?:shucks:

And if he was? The first time we had this discussion I had someone say to me "You must be gay yourself!" I'm not, and that kind of challenge is the cheap way of trying to justify yourself by demeaning the other guy. It's neither necessary or useful in any kind of debate.

That is still debatable.
The gays though are not sicko's. Normal and natural, made tabu by the ''holly'' men. Shouting god loves all and then denying an entire group their rights everyone else has.... that's sick.
But if you start giving them priviliges, your denying rights to everyone else. And they havent earned their priviliges (as a group), cause they're ordinary people.
So take that crown of your head, you proved nothing :|\\

No one ever said they were asking for privileges... Ever heard that old saying when you assume things you make something of you and me?

Right now they're fighting for their rights. That's awesome and I wish all Gay, Lesbian and anything else in between good luck in getting what's rightfully theirs.

We'll cross the "privilege" bridge when we get there... Because to be honest, when you start accusing a group of people for fighting for privileges you're opening a whole new can of worms that encompasses more then just that group.

Totally agree here.

Right now they aren't. But every group has a fringe element. And once they'll achieve their goals of being equall they'll go for the priviliges. Most of them wont, that I am sure, but the loudest will. And the liberals will cry ''let's give them, they deserved it after two millenia of persecution'' and the conservatives will yell ''we should never have given them their basic rights, the end is near'' and those of us that will say ''enough, just shut up already'' will be branded as hippies, gays and faschists by all sides

:haha: So basically what happened to every group that achieved their rights in the first place? It's a sick world we live in as has been pointed out in this thread. But I don't think it's because a man can sleep with another man or a woman with another woman.

It's sick because there are people willing to twist an honest and righteous fight for equality to suit their own gains.

It happened when Blacks gained their rights, it happened when women gained their rights and hell it's going to happen when gays get their rights too.

Sadly yes. But it's the fringe elements of every group that will always want even more.

I agree with you, I support them in their rights. But only their rights.

As I agree with you :)

It is the same in all groups. As an example, are all Muslims bad? Some would argue yes, I think it's the fringe and extremist elements. Much the same as there are extremist Christians, Jews, women's rights activists, gay pride activists, and a host of other groups I can't think of at the moment.

I think Buddhahead referred to sticking privileges into arses - guess this can be called sick if there is no consent...;)

Hey! I am a 50 year old student. :stare:

:D

38 year oldtimer here, but I am only doing distance learning
As I have a full-time job I call it working-class advanced education :O:

@Platapus: Aren't you aleady working on your thesis?

Yes,yes....a "young" 50y old student, :DL

You got to get rough with the fringe element, to get the point across

"working-class advanced education" it may involve some :DL

We all might want to tone down the rhetoric for the sake of our gay members. Believe it or not, but "them gays" do have feelings too. :yep:

Still plugging away on my dissertation. I am, as they say, ABD.

So close, but then so far away. :D

It is my personal opinion that you are more or less born to have what ever sexual preference that you have.I mean what person ever sat down say on the day that they hit puberty and decided what they where going to be attracted to for the rest of their lives? No one did. What person would choose willingly to go with the "preference" that is not accepted and has much stigma about it(mostly not true) and insures alienation from some friends and family?No one would.This applies to me and other people that have discussed this topic with me some of them heterosexual others homosexual.

We are the way we are because things in our brain made us that way from birth that is why it seems so natural it is because it is so deeply ingrained in your inner psyche that you can not change it.

Personally I dont really care who gets married oh raises kids as long as they do it well I dont see any reason why both parents being men or women makes any difference.My younger brother is gay and if something happened to myself and my wife I have no concern about my daughter living with my brother and his partner.I say this because I know that most stereotypes about gays are not true they are not trying to "spread" gayness which seems to be what many anti gays seem to fear.

there's nothing humans love more than deferring their responsibility to reason. From the moment we are born the fight is on, alcoholism, drugs, smoking, stealing, murder, lying and cheating. Homosexuality is just one of the things we have to fight off, why it attracts so much attention speaks for itself.

The conscious and itelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Edward Bernayes.

this statement explains much, Bernayes was able to weald influence at presidential level.

Fight off homosexuality? :hmmm:

Reminds me of that year I spent in prison. :rotfl2: