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MH 06-14-11 10:06 AM

Isn't racism part of history?
Leave the name as it is.
Maybe someone should make a movie about red tail squadron as well or maybe not?
It make look racist as well.

Herr-Berbunch 06-14-11 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke (Post 1683501)

That was good, it then led me to a Hitler v Darth Vader rap battle, and then the very same redone with lego :rotfl2:

@Bakkels don't joke about it, it may just come true. Okay, maybe not with B2s but there's plenty of surplus a/c out there at the minute, Aussie F111s, UK Harriers, and then there's the mothballed graveyard at Davis Monthan!!!

Bakkels 06-14-11 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch (Post 1683540)
@Bakkels don't joke about it, it may just come true. Okay, maybe not with B2s but there's plenty of surplus a/c out there at the minute, Aussie F111s, UK Harriers, and then there's the mothballed graveyard at Davis Monthan!!!

How about using a Concord?
Or a space-shuttle! Well I guess that would only happen if Michael Bay were directing this movie... :haha:

Feuer Frei! 06-14-11 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bakkels (Post 1683531)
Using B2's instead of Lancasters would be rewriting history. Changing the name of a dog? Hardly...

Yep, even changing the name of a dog is changing history!
Considering the Dog was named that.
His grave says it.
And the movie was based on a true story.

Hottentot 06-14-11 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke (Post 1683498)
The acceptability of words in a social situation should depend on the context the given word is used in, no word itself should be concidered inherently offensive.

I'm with antikristuseke on this one. It might also have something to do with historical differences. As Finland hasn't had similar minority of black people, let alone slavery in the past, the word "******", while not acceptable these days, doesn't necessarily conjure such harsh images in here either.

To give an example, I have seen some old school books and adverts that use the word. Some of them are circulating the internet too, as far as I know. There are poems, stories and "facts" that in our modern times seem weird, but were in their own era considered scientifical facts. Even from my own childhood, in the early 1990s, I remember there was a popular candy called "the ******'s kiss", which was at some point renamed to something more politically correct.

The word in here has been mostly benevolent. It was the word that was used when talking about black people. Like it or not, it is part of our history. That doesn't mean that I'm running around calling every black person ****** these days, obviously not, since it's now politically incorrect in here too. But I have also had some heated debates concerning if all the people in the 20th century were obvious racists, since they used the word on regular basis. People who think like that are doing exactly what should not be done according to majority of historians, that is, trying to impose our moral views and codes on the past and then trying to understand it based on that. It doesn't work.

Should the word be in a movie? I really don't care, I just want to see the film. It's a film: if I want to study history, I have a whole university for that and I'm doing it there daily anyway. If I got to choose, I would keep the dog's name as it was. But it doesn't ruin the film for me if it isn't.

Jimbuna 06-14-11 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 1683481)
The dog was called ******...end of.

I'm sick of these bloody PC thugs saying we can not say this we can not say that....Blah blah blah.

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4...400x346xj5.jpg

Gerald 06-14-11 11:31 AM

:har:

Jimbuna 06-14-11 11:37 AM

#43

Oh come on.....a bit strong don't you think? :hmmm:

I've deliberately not quoted the image.

BossMark 06-14-11 11:47 AM

@ Vender post 43 bloody marvellous
:har: :har:

Gerald 06-14-11 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna (Post 1683636)
#43

Oh come on.....a bit strong don't you think? :hmmm:

I've deliberately not quoted the image.

Maybe,maybe not my elders, :timeout:

Hottentot 06-14-11 11:57 AM

Well so much for post #43. Now it's Bakkels' post :stare:.

Gerald 06-14-11 12:00 PM

But in all honesty it was, not the words of the right, :stare:

Hottentot 06-14-11 12:02 PM

There is a fine line between editing a post and deleting the whole post. But enough offtopic from me.

Gerald 06-14-11 12:09 PM

Off topic! When the photo is the distinction more difficult, and for sentences significantly easier! So back on track.....

Jimbuna 06-14-11 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 1683655)
Maybe,maybe not my elders, :timeout:

Your co-operation is appreciated :salute:

STEED 06-14-11 12:14 PM

WTF is going on?

Gerald 06-14-11 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 1683678)
WTF is going on?

We'll make a plan for your week STEED, nothing to worry about, you only notice it, :rock:

STEED 06-14-11 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendor (Post 1683682)
We'll make a plan for your week STEED, nothing to worry about, you only notice it, :rock:

What has that got to do with this thread? :k_confused:

Gerald 06-14-11 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 1683690)
What has that got to do with this thread? :k_confused:

Nothing, that is just smile as David :woot:

nikimcbee 06-14-11 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by STEED (Post 1683690)
What has that got to do with this thread? :k_confused:

If I recall, we were naming you "Steeger" and making you some bomber mascot.:

I can see it now....

Buna's bastid bomber squadron and their faithfull mascot Stigger.
http://images.inmagine.com/img/aspir...cd00170034.jpg


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