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kraznyi_oktjabr 06-13-11 01:08 PM

What news media is?
 
Okay... now. Question for all: Have you considered what "news media" actually is? Is it nonpartisan charity? Rarely. Is it partisan organization? Possibly. Is it business? Well... if we talk about "mainstream media" then most likely: Yes.

"Mainstream media" writes/broadcast what it thinks to sell best. Cold reality is that Palin is more "sexy" than Obama. She looks better in front page pictures and has record of saying dumb things - which look good in frontlines. Mrs. Palin is gold mine for press. She is more worth of investment (in resources) than Obama.

Would I like to hear more about Obama's past? Yes. Would I like to hear more about Obama's dumb moments than Palin's? No. Why? Palin is more entertaining!

EDIT: I admit that I missed post #37 by AVGWarhawk when I wrote this comment

Tribesman 06-13-11 01:18 PM

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this is the best you have to say about it?
Indeed, as others have come up with very different takes than that blogger especially over her economic credentials her appearing to be a stuffed mouthpiece for certain interests and her seemingly thick as a plank views

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I think you are wrong
You think she doesn't look incredibly dumb?

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For a person who is a non-entity
She may be a non entity, but is she really a non entity in the American republican arena, she certainly gets enough positive and negative responses from the GOP as well as some crazy fanboy rants from the more nutty right wing media as well as some of the worlds biggest media who support her.
Come to think of it a load of high profile American "journalists" went on a rant this week when some foriegn politicians team said Palin wouldn't get given a meeting on a visit as she was seen as a joke.

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Truly the fools are those that persist in following and looking to dig dirt.
Would you say that they are more foolish than those who promote this muppet?

BTW wasn't all this current e-mail story grown out of the story that she had been using private accounts for official e-mails to get around having to release it as official correspondance.

MH 06-13-11 01:50 PM

Media is not objective period
Personal or channels views will always float around.
Palin looks dumb and anachronic to most.?
Obama is sleek and charismatic and mainstream love him.
Media loves him.
Outcome -Palin gets some kicks because she deserve them then some more for the fun.
Obama will get some polite criticism.

AVGWarhawk 06-13-11 02:16 PM

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You think she doesn't look incredibly dumb?


She does not look dumb. She is good looking actually. As far as meaningful brain activity, yes sir, she is not the sharpest.

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She may be a non entity, but is she really a non entity in the American republican arena, she certainly gets enough positive and negative responses from the GOP as well as some crazy fanboy rants from the more nutty right wing media as well as some of the worlds biggest media who support her.
This is true and something I have posted in the many threads concerning Palin. I have asked many times of those that continue to down play Palin, what is the attraction then if she is such a dope?

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Come to think of it a load of high profile American "journalists" went on a rant this week when some foriegn politicians team said Palin wouldn't get given a meeting on a visit as she was seen as a joke.

No worries for Palin, her emails were top of the line news. I read a few articles about her emails of old. I heard nothing of foreign politicians having a pow-wow. :hmmm: People like possible smut from anyone in the limelight. Just today I got to see pictures of Congressman Weiner in his underwear holding the family jewels. Really, this was over some English muffins with butter. :doh: This crap sells.


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Would you say that they are more foolish than those who promote this muppet?

No sir. She is a self promoter. The media helps though because it sells papers and creates ratings. It is similar to the opening of Al Capones vault by Heraldo. The anticipation was unbearable. The viewership astonishing. The vault was empty! Palin emails full of nothing but the anticipation was generated. The viewship astonishing.

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BTW wasn't all this current e-mail story grown out of the story that she had been using private accounts for official e-mails to get around having to release it as official correspondance.
Not that I'm aware of. I know her personal account was hacked. Said hacker has been tried and convicted.

Bakkels 06-13-11 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 1682978)
No worries for Palin, her emails were top of the line news. I read a few articles about her emails of old. I heard nothing of foreign politicians having a pow-wow. :hmmm: People like possible smut from anyone in the limelight. Just today I got to see pictures of Congressman Weiner in his underwear holding the family jewels. Really, this was over some English muffins with butter. :doh: This crap sells.

She planned on visiting Margaret Thatcher in the UK I heard, but Thatcher didn't want to see her. Thatcher's employees called Palin 'nuts', and said she wasn't interested in a meeting.

AVGWarhawk 06-13-11 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bakkels (Post 1682985)
She planned on visiting Margaret Thatcher in the UK I heard, but Thatcher didn't want to see her. Thatcher's employees called Palin 'nuts', and said she wasn't interested in a meeting.


I'm thinking Palin is nuts for just asking to see Thatcher. I can not say I blame Thatchers staff for saying just that!

tater 06-13-11 02:56 PM

I actually wanted them to find something that would remove her as a possible candidate. I think if she was smarter, she'd be great, but I wince every time she opens her mouth. :)

Still, I think they are going to excessive lengths compared to others who are actually candidates.

Again, I'm fine with them spending XXX man-hours on researching her as long as they do the same for other non-candidates, and some multiple for actual candidates.

Tchocky 06-13-11 03:03 PM

These emails were requested a long time ago under FOIA, mostly when everyone was thinking "who the hell is Sarah Palin?" and a lot of stuff about Troopergate was flying around.

So, the release of them now is not exactly related to the media focus on her. That focus is due to her unusual quasi-campaigning and undeclared status in a lacklustre Republican field.
Naturally, I'd prefer if there wasn't so much attention paid to her without good reason, but a man can dream :03:

The fact that 20-odd thousand emails are being released is newsworthy enough and will be covered, seeing as how she seeks and pretends to avoid the spotlight incessantly.

Bakkels 06-13-11 03:09 PM

By the way (slightly off topic), but whatever happened to McCain? Will he be running again? He might not be a spring-chicken anymore, but I got the feeling he was quite popular across the board.

Tribesman 06-13-11 03:12 PM

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Still, I think they are going to excessive lengths compared to others who are actually candidates.
That is answered by....
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These emails were requested a long time ago under FOIA, mostly when everyone was thinking "who the hell is Sarah Palin?" and a lot of stuff about Troopergate was flying around.
Though it could be added that this FOI request was just one of nearly 2000 they made that year for official correspondance.

AVGWarhawk 06-13-11 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bakkels (Post 1683027)
By the way (slightly off topic), but whatever happened to McCain? Will he be running again? He might not be a spring-chicken anymore, but I got the feeling he was quite popular across the board.

He will not run again. He can not function a Blackberry. This was a prerequisite in the last race. :doh:

sidslotm 06-15-11 04:41 PM

I cannot help but feel Palin will be in the oval office some day. She is under constant attack from all quarters, but she survives and continues on.

Buddahaid 06-15-11 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sidslotm (Post 1684777)
I cannot help but feel Palin will be in the oval office some day. She is under constant attack from all quarters, but she survives and continues on.

Let's hope she's washing the floors then. :shucks:

vienna 06-15-11 05:29 PM

When people complain about the media scutiny of Pailn, consider who she is: a charismatic figure with scattershot, extreme ideas; passing herself off as a folksy friend of the working class; constantly positioning herself as an outsider against "big government", a "maverick"; making broad statements with no specifics; surrounding herself with rabid supporters who themselves have particularly noxious sub-agendas; wrapping herself in the flag and virtually declaring herself and her followers as the only true patriots; relying more on fervid emotion than calculated, reasoned thought; replacing policy with slogans...

No, the media should not place Palin under a magnifying glass. After all, critical media scutiny probably wouldn't have helped in 1930's Munich...

There are times when I watch Palin making speeches or giving statements that I feel she might benefit from an admonition the nuns in my school used to give us: "It is better to be silent and mistaken as a fool than to open one's mouth and erase all doubt"...

tater 06-15-11 05:57 PM

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mo...-13-2011/pmail

AVGWarhawk 06-15-11 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid (Post 1684784)
Let's hope she's washing the floors then. :shucks:

:haha:


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