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Originally Posted by Schroeder (Post 1649244)

I think that might be wrong. Often it's the lack of parents because both have jobs and are never at home. :hmm2:

Yes, i forgot about that one.
Mind you, those parents are certainly not excused, in fact quiete the reverse.
Well, i'm sure there are reasons, certainly to those that do both work, that both parents are at their jobs whilst the child is being cared for after school.
However, i can't think of 1 right now. Justifiable one that is.
What i meant by my original answer is that everything is attributal to how a child is raised. By the parent (s).
A child's future is shaped by their upbringing.
To a lesser extent their environs.
How they are raised, nurtured, respected and loved and cherished, yet disciplined and taught quantity is not quality.
It all starts at home. Everything. The root of all evil, or good, had a home. At some stage.
A good upbringing can be attributed to good and loving parents.
I use the words parents, for the exercise of this debate.
I use a child that has a home, and has at least 1 parent at home, raising the child, for the purpose of this debate.

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1649091)

@onelife

Are you sure you know your countries laws?

I'm never sure of anything. :haha: Okay, so what's the law here on hitting kids?

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Originally Posted by magic452 (Post 1648928)

My two kids were very much like Armistead's.
For my son a couple of firm but not hard swats on the back side were enough. Mission accomplished, maybe had to do this three or four times when he saw little.

My daughter was immune to swats but a little time in the bedroom and you would think it was a torture chamber.

A spanking is one thing, someone used the word "beating", that is something else, no one should ever beat a child. The trick is knowing where the line is.

The punishment MUST fit the crime and every situation is different.
The idea of punishing and child is to teach the child right from wrong behavior, not to extract revenge by the parent. What works for one child might not be best for another and what works this time might not be right next time. The idea is to teach the child that there are consequences for their actions.

When I was about 9 or 10 I shot out a big window with a BB gun by accident. Two months of extra chores to pay for the window.
I learned two lessons, First windows are expressive and two always make sure you have a safe back drop when you are shooting. :know: :know:

When I was in school in the 50's corporal punishment was allowed. I felt many a ruler across the knuckles in my time. The problem with this system is it is very open to the kind of abuse that Armistead referred to and I can't say I support it today.

Magic

I agree. I have no doubt my generation was spanked too much and often too hard. My father often spanked for simple mistakes kids make.

I set rules for my kids, they knew what would bring a spanking and they never got spanked for being kids. I prolly spanked both of them a total of 5 times that I can recall.

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Originally Posted by Platapus (Post 1648932)

I completely agree that kids should not be beaten like I was when I was a kid.

But the other extreme is equally wrong.

A kid should always know that the parent is CHOOSING not to hit the kid, but should never feel that the parent CAN'T hit the kid. There is a world of difference

I think that because of the over reaction of some child "protection" services that some kids are being brought up thinking that the parent can never even spank them. :nope:

True, often in stores you would see other kids pitching fits and moms begging and pleading, causing more fits...I would just look at my son and say.." you know what I'd do to you if you acted like that."...

I think today parents feel they need to befriend instead of parent resulting in a very immature generation of kids today. Maybe it's me, but they seem 5-8 years behind emotionally than my generation. Kids today have so much more, including my own. I never saw toys except Christmas or Birthdays. Never any junkfood, we ate 3 meals a day...Heck, I was working almost 40 hours a week when in school and my father made me pay rent. I was out on my own right out of school. Turning 18 for many of us back then was a ticket out the front door.

The job of a parent is to become not needed.

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Originally Posted by MaddogK (Post 1648906)

:cool:
Too many violent video games maybe ?

Video games didn't exist when I was a kid, we went outside and found a stick and pretended it was a gun. We played sports, once baseball bats and gloves were things you begged for, not a new video card..

We ran around all day out in the summer sun. Most the kids in our neighborhood want to come in after 20 minutes complaining it's too hot, get a coke and sit in front of a video game.

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Originally Posted by Armistead (Post 1649415)

Turning 18 for many of us back then was a ticket out the front door.

Gone are the days of when the kid turned 18 it was time for them to go forth and earn thy fortune, with an emphasis on the going forth. :nope:

I was the same way, I could not wait to get out on my own. This generation, I don't know. For some of them, they see nothing wrong with leeching off the parents until they are 25 or so. Me? I would be humiliated if I had to move back in with my parents after I left. I would have worked two extra part time jobs to prevent that if necessary.

I guess it came down to pride and in some cases pride can be a good thing. I don't see that in some of the kids these days.

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I'm never sure of anything. :haha: Okay, so what's the law here on hitting kids?

Well onelife, the most important question would be do you have parental rights over those kids?
If you do then you can smack them under the childrens act.
However if your smacking leaves any physical damage you get yourself open to a charge of ABH or if its serious damage you get GBH.

So you Brits can beat your brats as long as there is no noticable bruising, swelling or breaking the skin or anything more serious.

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Originally Posted by Tribesman (Post 1649462)

So you Brits can beat your brats as long as there is no noticable bruising, swelling or breaking the skin or anything more serious.

Rubber hose and telephone books. :D