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Madox58 03-17-11 06:59 PM

All I can say about Shims nowdays is this:

We go through shims like most people go through butt wipe.
We found more then one reason to just make our own shims.

1.
The store bought shims are never thin enuff at the end!
We build to tight specs and not haveing the right shim handy costs time and money.

2.
The store bought shims love to split all to hell!
We demand our shims to stay in something close to a single piece.
Hell! I'd be happy with a semi-split Shim!
Something that drops out of the damned frame in a jigsaw like puzzle when a nail or screw is waved at them from across the room is
just not meeting our standards!

3.
To try to compete with the China Shimdrome?
Even the ones made in the U.S.of A. exhibit a 'vacuum' symptom.
They suck!

4.
Any S.O.B. that would outsource f'ing Shims to China?!!
That's one S.O.B. that should be nailed up useing those same shims to hold his Nasty Parts off the wall!
We'll not give him a dime of our hard earned money!

Onkel Neal 03-17-11 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by em2nought (Post 1621688)
Went to Thailand in December, and guess what - stuff was made in Thailand. They are just a little ways from China and they make their own stuff. Somebody has committed treason against the US, several somebodies. It should be viewed as treason. :damn:

Them somebodies is us. We consumers look for the lowest price commodoties. We producers will not compete with coutries who make better products, and we laborers want to earn more (and enjoy a better standard of living) than foreign labor in less developed countries.

mookiemookie 03-17-11 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by krashkart (Post 1621745)
This is my theory:

The shims begin as thin slabs of wood, which are made here in the US. Those thin little slabs are then shipped over to China to be tapered down and packaged, then shipped back to the US for sale as a Chinese product. :know:

You are probably right. China's the largest purchaser of U.S. and Canadian lumber in the world. What's that say about the wages of Chinese laborers when it's cheaper for a U.S. company to ship the wood over there, have it turned into shims and then have it shipped back?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens (Post 1621877)
Them somebodies is us. We consumers look for the lowest price commodoties. We producers will not compete with coutries who make better products, and we laborers want to earn more (and enjoy a better standard of living) than foreign labor in less developed countries.

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TarJak 03-18-11 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1621903)
You are probably right. China's the largest purchaser of U.S. and Canadian lumber in the world. What's that say about the wages of Chinese laborers when it's cheaper for a U.S. company to ship the wood over there, have it turned into shims and then have it shipped back?

Either Chinese labour is really really cheap or American labour is really really expensive. You work it out.:03:

mookiemookie 03-18-11 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 1622003)
Either Chinese labour is really really cheap or American labour is really really expensive. You work it out.:03:

I was figuring it was cheap Chinese labor because they could have always sent the lumber to someplace closer with cheap labor like Mexico, Guatemala or the Dominican Republic, but yet they still chose faraway China.

the_tyrant 03-18-11 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TarJak (Post 1622003)
Either Chinese labour is really really cheap or American labour is really really expensive. You work it out.:03:

Nope, its because China has no environmental regulations
And face it, shims are made by machines, the labor involved is minimal


Also, blame the shipping companies, for making shipping so cheap

Ducimus 03-18-11 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie (Post 1622044)
I was figuring it was cheap Chinese labor because they could have always sent the lumber to someplace closer with cheap labor like Mexico, Guatemala or the Dominican Republic, but yet they still chose faraway China.

From pictures, Im guessing the situation in china is this:
- No labor unions
- No regulations
- No EPA.

I'll bet in china, the situation probably a throwback to the industrial revolution. You know, back before child labor laws and the like. In short, its probably a corporate paradise.

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_tyrant (Post 1622053)
And face it, shims are made by machines, the labor involved is minimal

Yeah, thats not lost on me. You can make them by hand, most defiantly, but if your mass producing something, it's machined, or at the very least, you have one fancy jig set up.

Growler 03-18-11 02:03 PM

Well, I guess if you have to bang on about poor quality lumber products...

SubShim's the place to do it.

Tchocky 03-18-11 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Growler (Post 1622410)
Well, I guess if you have to bang on about poor quality lumber products...

SubShim's the place to do it.


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