nutjobs?
 

If we didn't have these nut jobs, holding the so called political nut jobs feet to the fire , who will ?

Actually, Liberalism is the idea that political power should derive from a mandate from the voters through representative democracy, and the rejection of absolute monarchy and nobility.

But I guess that doesn't fit on a bumper sticker.

Ducimus, the Republicans are supposed to put out a plan after labor day, they are working on it, something akin to the Contract with America so it won't just be so and so is bad vote Republican.

Having said that, I understand the religious right pushing you away, they are a great source of annoyance to me and make my party look bad but they have their right to be ignorant as well.I can't see how it'd drive someone that much to the left considering the road to ruin the Left has kept us on.The differences are very clear to me and perhaps will be to more after the GOP puts out their plan.

One party rule is not a democracy , and the democratic party is out of control ,voted by liberals for liberals. Maybe they ought to read these bills before they pass them, or maybe you are ok with the crap that is going on in DC. Liberalism still = Socialism or communism yea, spread the wealth around take it out of my pocket and give it to Pedro the illegal, better yet to those mosques over seas.

Well we are actually a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy.

I am not for one party control normally but since the Democratic Party has devolved into the Socialist Party for most part, the only current aleternative is the Republican Party which is undergoing a refreshing revolution to be more of the constitutional conservative party and is the only thing that can stop Obama for next two years.Of course the name will stay Republican and Democrats will stay Democrats in name.Perhaps after November the Dems will have a revolution in their party, oust the far left bats and perhaps offer us a decent alternative again.

If we had a decent democrat run for office I'd consider voting for him/her.Every Democrat, esp on national stage tend to associate with trash I just can't support.They pander to racist minority groups, unions, etc play class and race warfare etc

I'm not really interested in a protracted engagement over the matter, but it does bear noting that the economy crumbled under the watch of a Republican president, and that Fannie and Freddy were supported by a large number of Republican legislators. The mess in the Middle East was begun by a Republican administration. And all of this with the party being controlled by the far-right. And after all of that, they still have the audacity to claim that the party lost it's way by not listening to them. Garbage; they were running the show within the party, and had been since '93.

Sorry, but our [Republicans] loons are just as bad as their's. Pointing at the Democrats and saying 'crazy' just doesn't hold water.

Amen Brother.
 

Back to the same ole get nothing done DC, better this, than where we are going. I think I like muslims better than liberals. oh no, I'm a liberal phobe. The democrats have been in power since 06 and Obama was there for it and it got worst, look where we are at now, you want more. Yes sir, may I have another. What about Howard Dean he is koo koo for cocoa puffs.

This train started moving back in the late 90's. Sorry, that dog won't hunt.

I do?

What about him? Or Sarah Palin? Or Ross Perot? Or Ralph Nader? The Democratic Party doesn't have a monopoly on idiots.

When it comes to who's running the nation, I have to say, I dislike extremes. Extreme left is bad. Extreme right is equally bad. One part or another controlling congress and the white house is bad.

I wish this age of political extremism would go away. I want people who are logical, pragmatic, intelligent, informed, does not see the world as just black and white but also the shades of gray it really is, and can make decisions not based on faith, but on what is logical and prudent for the matter at hand. But since im dreaming big here, I also want said leaders with a sense of integrity who make decisions based on what is good the country, not for what is good special interests.

Said description doesn't exist in either party right now, and probably never will. I wonder if it ever has.

You're right on all accounts, and in all probability, it has never existed outside of ideals. I'm sure that in 10 years we'll all have something else to complain about regarding politicians.

Heh, I've talked about politics far more in the past 10 hours than I have in the past 10 years. I feel like I need a shower.

I'm still trying to decide if I'm supposed to be a Muslim, or a godless socialist. :O:

You're both! :timeout:

Well, with all due respect to your phenominal cosmic powers, I believe that you are supposed to be a lesser deity yourself. Technically, we should be worshiping you.

Oh Frau Kaleun, I beg thee smiteth mine enemies with blindness and boils

EDIT: Intended as humorous. Don't hate me.

Well here's a dog that hunts,
 

In the 90s I had a great job , good money in construction, well as soon as the democrats took over in 06 lost that job and been jobless since. I remember well when the housing bubble was about to burst and things started to fall apart , what was the democratic congress doin , I'll tell you, they were checking baseball players for drugs for months .

I can live with that.

It's been a long week. How about chronic eye boogers and a really painful cold sore?

I would be somewhat morbidly curious as to how you would pin the entire housing bubble as being the fault of one political party, but thinking through it logically, I know that it would only highlight a lack of understanding of the complex and multitude factors that contributed to a breakdown in our economic system, and I fear to witness the mental gymnastics required to place the entirety of the fault upon Democrats and Democrats alone. And lord knows that I'd have to launch into my standard non-partisan explanation of what happened, and that's just more than I want to type now.

So I'll just remain over here.

Here's a dancing bear.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3274/...e4ef508b_o.gif

That would be awesome, frau. :up:

As a postscript, I am relieved you did not take offense. It has been a serious thread, and I was afriad that, given my track record, my comment would be seen as insulting.

I was very snippy with you when you first joined. You did not derserve that and I am sorry for my behavior. I am glad you are around. You're a better person than I. :yep:

So she is like the Soviet Republic of Gilan?

Or the Great Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya?


:hmmm:

I'm a dessert topping and a floor wax!

Wow. That bear can move. My hamstrings hurt just watching him.