Sorry, my bad. :oops:


The whole "Ubi sux" argument is wearing me down. Not to defend the company; delivering a product in the state the Silent Hunter series is in at release is unacceptable. Doesn't mean everything that comes out of there is bad quality, or signals the end of the company.

Meh the dev teams just need to learn they don't need a crappy publisher like UBI in order to get their games out. Make a good game and people will buy it, you don't need a publisher advertising and hyping it and telling you how to make your game in order to get more sales.

If they read the graph they'll merely turn it upside down and say it's a thing of beauty! Guess they showed those pirates, didn't they?:har:

Can't say they don't richly deserve their fate.

Now I will have to buy some Ubi stock along with some BP stock. :yeah:

Surely UBI must have someone or even a few people that check the web etc for PR and to see what people think of their games/company, I don't believe a company as big as UBI will totally bury their heads in the ground and ignore what is going on!:hmmm: A DRM patch for SH5 will come out when sales have died off, this will do 2 things:

1) Relieve their server load.
2) For those who haven't purchased the game because of the DRM. (many don't have a good enough internet connection to stay online)

This will give another influx of sales, money is money after all!:yep:
BTW, I haven't purchased a game for several months, not because of economic reasons but because of online DRM, I don't like Steam and refuse to install it, so the number of good games available have really dropped, the only thing that seems to have increased is piracy, I am actually considering X-Box, at least that is online DRM free, wonder for how long!! Sad isn't it.:-?

I knew it wouldn't be long before the Ubisoft cheerleaders showed up in this thread. You are wrong, Sonarman. As I have said before, sales and profits are two different things.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/2..._9_Million.php

It doesn't matter how many games they ship. If Ubisoft doesn't become profitable very soon, they are finished. Their stocks are almost worthless now compared to 2 years ago. And it's not just Ubisoft Romania. Other devs are leaving Ubi. They know she's going down:

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/2...t_Montreal.php

As I said before, I give them until next year at the latest. Whether they are swallowed up by another company or file bankruptcy, they are finished.

I never said they were doing well I was merely indicating that they are still afloat and have the potential to remain so. As for being a Ubisoft cheerleeder?... they really only make one game series that interests me (SH) and they have unfortunately messed that up this time out. I hope for our sake that they do give the series another chance and actually listen to what their customers are trying to tell them. But as your many figures indicate sadly the smartest thing for Yves & crew to do right now is drop Silent Hunter like a rock and put "all hands on deck" to churn out as many Assasins Creed bolt- ons & sequels as possible to return the company to profitability asap.

Sorry. I shouldn't have called you a Ubisoft cheerleader.

I am guessing the only way that they could return to profitability would be to cut everything to the bone... downsize massively like so many other companies have done to try and stay afloat. But chances are that it's already too late for that. If and when they go under, I would guess it would be sometime in the spring or summer of 2011. They will try and hold on at least through Christmas this year.

Not so fast, buddy. Before you are eligible for holding Ubi stock you must guarantee the availability of a permanent internet connection to their servers, as your stock will only maintain or gain value as long as that connection exists. If it is ever disrupted your stock will be considered rogue and you a hacker. And this time there are no save games.

Funny, it takes less security to buy the shares of the company than to play one of its games... Also, the shares you can sell again, but the game is stuck to your Ubi account...

Also funny, the graphic on the original post looks a lot like my feelings over the release of SH5. The announcement catches my attention, the hype builds me up and at the top of my eagerness the game is finally released, only to turn out a massive, say, drop in value.

Makes you wonder what a gaming world without EA & Ubi would be like. Could in some ways be a much healthier thing giving lots of the smaller companies a much better standing/chance in the marketplace particularly now that the traditional retail channels for PC games are going the way of the dodo.

I think it would be a good thing!!:up:

Oah god, now they will ask their government for a bailout!:rotfl2:

I wonder if people are starting to realize that 50 bucks is too much for a game. Just a thought.

I'm already guilty of owning some of the latter :cry:

I don't know. About the time I hit thirty I started to realize that bills are just as expensive. That and food. Hrm.... and fuel. :o

My condolences, mate. :dead:

I bought it quite a few years back as part of a 'balanced' fuel provider equities investment portfolio and must say that taking into consideration the dividends I have enjoyed over the years, the investment has been a sound/positive one.

Now, if I'm to be totally honest, any further sudden 10-15% overnight drops would impact on previous dividends received and yes....my ar$e is starting to twitch like a rabbits nose :doh:

Yea, it was the latter half there that I was thinking about. Hope you don't see any more of those drops. :)

I thought where you live it was required by law...:O:

The shares were initially released in roughly Oct 87 for £1.20ish just a few days before the stock market crashed but have been as high as £6.55 in the last 6 months and are currently around the £3.40 mark.

Many wealthy people have made unimaginable profits over that period, believe me.

I do not consider myself to be in the above category.

I adhere to one principal...never invest more than you can afford to lose.

Hence the lowly pittance I dabble with :DL

Not me. I bought SH3 before I learned about their copy protection schemes (here at SUBSIM), uninstalled it soon afterwards and never bought any subsequent SH versions out of protest.