"Haven't bought it, and never will" has been my position from the start, and still is. I hoped for further expansions for SH4, which would add RN, IJN and RNethN, thus making SH4 represent all nations whose navies used subs in the Far East as the Atlantic is less interesting to me.
No such luck. Instead, another U-Boot sim. It got worse: one sub type only, and only until 1943. Interest dropped further. Then the killer: DRM. I already had two sims with DRM (Distant Guns and Jutland) and much as I love these, I would definitely not buy them again because of the DRM SES use, even though it's by no means as intrusive as UBI's. This applies to ALL sims with DRM as far as I'm concerned. And judging by the reviews and everything that has been posted here and elsewhere, I'm not missing anything, really. The only things about SH5 that interest me are the ships such as "Emden", which hopefully will be reverse-engineered for SH4. Firstly, they would make great additions to the "Battle for the Baltic" campaign. Even more importantly, "Emden" would make a useful stand-in for the "Java" and "Sumatra" until somebody makes an accurate model for them- the RNethN's cupboard is rather bare :(.

I voted "haven't bought this game and I will probably not buy it".

From what I'm reading version 1.1 with mods is far superior to version 1.2 without. Ubi seem to have dropped the ball again.

My real position is will NEVER buy this as long as it is hamstrung by this version of DRM.

EVER.

Dredd :arrgh!:

I wonder how long the obsession around this game will last...

The obsession with DRM you mean? They'll probably never get over it, unfortunately.

agreed capt. robbins 100%:yeah:

DRM or not, patch or no patch, rely on mods or not...

I just wonder for how long people who hate so much this game will feel the need to express their obsession.

Well, they obviously don't hate it as much as they claim, if they are viewing/posting in the SH5 board.

You have to wonder at the logic of these people at times.

Wow, I'm one of six that might buy it at some point. :yawn:

I saw that:up:

i will buy this sim, but i'll probably be pushin' 50 when i do - please take into account how long it has taken SH3 to get to the glorious game/sim/passion that it has become; some idea how old i am now:woot:

sarcastic remarks welcome:salute:

Total fiasco, no doubt about it.
I always believed that in a couple of years we could play SH5 with some kind of Super-Mod and it would be a great subsim, right up there with SH3+GWX.
But now, I'm even doubting that. There's a limit to what modders can do, so if this game doesn't get patched properly there might be some hard-coded holes they won't be able to fill.

I would never do that...junior.:O::D

The ones who truly hate it are probably long gone. But there are a quite a few persistent onlookers here, me included, that still hope that all this makes a turn to the better. One can only hope that Ubi Romania was not already completely put on a different project but will finally deliver some better patches and content additions than thus far. That, and if the DRM goes one day, I bet Ubi will report a surge in SHV sales. My money they still might get, but only if they start returning value for dollar.

However, presently it looks worse and worse with every week that passes to me as an outsider. Happy news on SHV? Where? When?

With this kind of DRM, I will never buy *any* game.

you guys are such aggressive haters haha

Now I've added you to my Hate list Mate!
Just kidding.
:haha:
:hmmm:
Or am I?
Sometimes I hate my wife.
But don't tell her I said that.
I'd be doing dishes for ever!

No Dear, I'm not on the internet!
Was just checking my E-Mail and sorry I didn't get the trash............

Not all of them.

Well, you've said it, it looks. There are folks here who really enjoy to make things worse than they really are. (and still some of them never played it at all...)

I guess we'll just have to be very patient.

Sadly, we don't live in that type of gaming world anymore... really,,, a console game $60 is value for dollar? yeah for them you bet it is. ;)

I'm still evolving a little on this. Just waiting out the hard evolution this portion of the series seems to be going through... kinda reminds me of the scenes in "The Search For Spock"; after Spock is reborn he is in constant agonizing pain because of his accelerated growth. :)

won't ever buy it.

sh5 sucks plain and simple... just like how the game is