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GoldenRivet 02-24-10 05:41 PM

to satisfy mookie and his far left agenda ill come right out and say it.

Im NOT a republican

Im NOT a democrat

but my official position:

So long as this administration is in power, and so long as nancy pelosi and her far left progressive, gun hating, God hating AMERICA HATING goons hold the wheel at congress - i will not be cooperative with the powers that be in any way shape or form on the census, or ANY other issue for that matter.

be the president and congress far left... or far right... they are both sprawling and failed models of governance that only represent the interests of the super rich or the poorest of the poor - leaving a HUGE sum of America WITHOUT representation.

My distrust and border line hatred of the federal government was born LONG before anyone voted for a Bush or a Bama or even a Clinton

Morts 02-24-10 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1279715)
to satisfy mookie and his far left agenda ill come right out and say it.

Im NOT a republican

Im NOT a democrat

but my official position:

So long as this administration is in power, and so long as nancy pelosi and her far left progressive, gun hating, God hating AMERICA HATING goons hold the wheel at congress - i will not be cooperative with the powers that be in any way shape or form on the census, or ANY other issue for that matter.

be the president and congress far left... or far right... they are both sprawling and failed models of governance that only represent the interests of the super rich or the poorest of the poor - leaving a HUGE sum of America WITHOUT representation.

My distrust and border line hatred of the federal government was born LONG before anyone voted for a Bush or a Bama or even a Clinton

god hating ?

Tribesman 02-24-10 06:02 PM

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will not be cooperative with the powers that be in any way shape or form on the census, or ANY other issue for that matter.

Simple solution, you keep saying you want a rebelion and to build a new free state in Texas.
Do it.
Next time you fill up with gas drive off without paying the taxes the evil feds have put on it, make sure you speed on the wrong side of the road as you must not co-operate with the powers to be in any way whatsoever...actually you had better speed off road as it will be an evil government road and they are just persecuting you.
:doh:
There was quite an interestring article following the Tax terrorist incident the other day about how crazy anti-government conspiracy nuts are quite common in certain areas of certain states no matter which party holds which degree of power.

Tribesman 02-24-10 06:09 PM

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god hating ?
Don't forget the guns hating.
when some people get frustrated they cling to god and guns for comfort, so obviously anyone who frustrates them must be against those things they cling to.
The
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AMERICA HATING
one is the funniest though, since those people are Americans and its the ones who make the accusation who appear to be the ones who hate America.

GoldenRivet 02-24-10 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Morts (Post 1279733)
god hating ?

Why else remove the mention of God from everything?

@ Tribesman... both parties are really Anti-American.

they both outsource all of our industry, refuse... flat out to protect our sovereignty and seem to do everything they can to smother out our economy.

Ishmael 02-24-10 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1279809)
Why else remove the mention of God from everything?

@ Tribesman... both parties are really Anti-American.

they both outsource all of our industry, refuse... flat out to protect our sovereignty and seem to do everything they can to smother out our economy.

Well, we agree on that. So how about THIS as a solution?

http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2010...-duty-for-all/

GoldenRivet 02-24-10 07:09 PM

interesting... but

1. I think these officials should be voted in... thus select 3 or 4 of them and put it to a vote (didnt see if that was in the article)

2. I think it leaves things open ended a bit that one of these guys could be randomly selected.

http://sniroadwarrior.files.wordpres...03/redneck.jpg

http://www.urb.com/uploads/blogs/7606/slim-thug.jpg

http://www.urantiansojourn.com/wp-co...8/02/moron.jpg

such an event would substantially increase our closure rate on "idiocracy"

Sailor Steve 02-24-10 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1279809)
Why else remove the mention of God from everything?

What mention of God is it that you don't want removed? I'm not anti-religion, but I certainly am anti-theocracy.

Ishmael 02-24-10 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1279825)
interesting... but

1. I think these officials should be voted in... thus select 3 or 4 of them and put it to a vote (didnt see if that was in the article)

2. I think it leaves things open ended a bit that one of these guys could be randomly selected.

http://sniroadwarrior.files.wordpres...03/redneck.jpg

http://www.urb.com/uploads/blogs/7606/slim-thug.jpg

http://www.urantiansojourn.com/wp-co...8/02/moron.jpg

such an event would substantially increase our closure rate on "idiocracy"

As opposed to the Presidency of the most Incurious man in the world, George W. Bush? The only difference I see between the two is better dental care and nicer clothes. I would venture to say the people pictured above VOTED for Bush TWICE. Yet another reason to reinstitute Civics instruction in our schools like WE had to take. Besides, just from looking at the pictures, I would venture that at least two of them are probably convicted felons and, hence, ineligible.

Ultimately, you either trust your fellow citizens or you don't. I know I would trust your judgement more than Harry Reid. I would assume you would trust MY judgement better than, say, Sarah Palin.

GoldenRivet 02-24-10 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1279834)
What mention of God is it that you don't want removed? I'm not anti-religion, but I certainly am anti-theocracy.

aye... but being anti-theocracy and being anti-God are in fact two different things.

dont get me wrong... i dont want a "church ruled state".

and i do believe in separation of church and state.

but i dont want to have my child arrested, harrassed or expelled from school for praying - silently to myself - in class either. :shifty:

and if a parent wants his kid to not recite the pledge of allegiance because it mentions God... fine... but thats no reason to outright ban the pledge of allegiance altogether!

and what about the removal of the ten commandments from court houses.

i cant agree with that. :nope:

is it a matter of the state "endorsing" Christianity because two stone tablets bear ten ideal laws for governance of every day life are present in the court house?

nonsense.

GoldenRivet 02-24-10 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ishmael (Post 1279843)
I know I would trust your judgement more than Harry Reid. I would assume you would trust MY judgement better than, say, Sarah Palin.

true :up:

it is sad though...

more often than not i find myself saying "I didnt vote FOR candidate A... i simply voted AGAINST candidate B."

Ishmael 02-24-10 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1279848)
true :up:

it is sad though...

more often than not i find myself saying "I didnt vote FOR candidate A... i simply voted AGAINST candidate B."


Vote SATAN in 2012. Why settle for the LESSER of two Evils?

GoldenRivet 02-24-10 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ishmael (Post 1279855)
Vote SATAN in 2012. Why settle for the LESSER of two Evils?

who is he running against? :haha:

Pelosi?

ok... Satan it is

Platapus 02-24-10 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1279846)
but i dont want to have my child arrested, harrassed or expelled from school for praying - silently to myself - in class either. :shifty:


That a real good trick if your child can do it.:D

Can you cite any case where a child was expelled or arrested for praying silently?

If all they wanted to do is pray silently, I would not have a problem with it. But they don't. They want to make it public where some announcement like you need an appointment to pray.

Anyone can pray anytime at school they want and they can do it in a way that no one will notice. But they want to be noticed. That's the issue I don't like.

Platapus 02-24-10 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1279848)
more often than not i find myself saying "I didnt vote FOR candidate A... i simply voted AGAINST candidate B."


I honestly can't remember the last time I voted FOR a candidate. :nope:

It always seems to be who do I hate the least. :yep:

Tribesman 02-24-10 07:41 PM

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and if a parent wants his kid to not recite the pledge of allegiance because it mentions God... fine... but thats no reason to outright ban the pledge of allegiance altogether!
Perhaps the pledge shouldn't have had the word God added 60 years after it was introduced.
BTW when it comes to the pledge surely you should't recite it anyway as you are always on about dismembering the country.

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and what about the removal of the ten commandments from court houses.
What does the ten commandments have to do with a US courthouse?
Nothing, even if they did have some relation to a US courthouse which of the hundreds of versions should be used.
If a judge broke one of the commandments should he be banned from sitting?
What is really needed is proper biblical law to bring some really good old fashioned god fearing justice to the new theocracy, you can build a better version of saudis interpretation of sharia.

Sailor Steve 02-24-10 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1279846)
but i dont want to have my child arrested, harrassed or expelled from school for praying - silently to myself - in class either. :shifty:

Answered, and answered well, by Platapus.

But I'm always reminded of a letter to the Salt Lake Tribune years ago, praising a girl for spontaneously praying out loud at a school assembly. I had to wonder it his praise would have still been there if the girl had been of Japanese descent, and had set up a shinto shrine and prayed to her ancestors.

It's my opinion that people don't want prayer in public schools - they want their prayer in public schools.

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and if a parent wants his kid to not recite the pledge of allegiance because it mentions God... fine... but thats no reason to outright ban the pledge of allegiance altogether!
No, the reason to outright ban the Pledge Of Allegiance altogether is that loyalty oaths have no place in a democracy. The pledge is only a little over one hundred years old, and has been rewritten several times.

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and what about the removal of the ten commandments from court houses.

i cant agree with that. :nope:

is it a matter of the state "endorsing" Christianity because two stone tablets bear ten ideal laws for governance of every day life are present in the court house?

nonsense.
1. "I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me"

Ideal laws for governence of everyday life? Sounds like endorsing Christianity (or Judaism, if you prefer) to me.

2. "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord Thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; and shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments."

What exactly does any of that have to do with public law?

3. "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain: for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain."

Again, pure religion. Why should this be on a courtouse wall?

4. "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. (and more, but I'm tired of typing)."

One more time: What does this have to do with civil law?

The rest are connected with common life, and common sense, and do indeed have some connection to common law, but they are also predated by the Code of Hammurabi, which said many similar things long before. Should we have that on the courthouse wall? It would make more sense.

Morts 02-24-10 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1279809)
Why else remove the mention of God from everything?

@ Tribesman... both parties are really Anti-American.

they both outsource all of our industry, refuse... flat out to protect our sovereignty and seem to do everything they can to smother out our economy.

care to explain what she is removing god from, insted of just saying everything ?

AngusJS 02-24-10 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1278247)
Google isnt likely to send troops to my door in the middle of the night to arrest my family and I for our religious or political beliefs.

And the US government is? :o

Regarding the 10 commandments, prayer and the pledge - what Sailor Steve said.

GoldenRivet 02-24-10 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AngusJS (Post 1279927)
And the US government is? :o

more likely than google :haha:

back to the root issue.

the US Congress has the authority to enumerate the citizens via census.

the US Congress does not have the authority to gain any other information through a census

just watch the video the OP posted


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