After launch, we can do a classic pincer movement, a sort of stereo protest. On the right speakers all they hear is the silence of our wallets. On the left, the roar of outrage. It may take a while but DRM/OSP is dead on arrival. :yep:

Im a rather old gamer, from the commandor 64 times back in the 80, And so far I can't say any game that not have been cracked after a few days or weeks, ok some small games that allmost no one buy dont. So Sh5 will be it to, it rather big titel.

But Im from sweden and just downloading games have not been forbidden in more then a couple of years here, so I know :D, but anyway I buy all the good games, But this time SH5 have to wait if the DRM get patched, I will spend my money on Napoleon total war, yup a steam games, I must say that I love steam, I have never had any trubel at all with steam, and I can play offline, so all my lates games I have bought the last 5 years i think is on steam. there are only some titles that I had to buy the DVD. I bought empire total war, the monster version, and that game was cracked before release day :nope:

Don't worry, Brag, on release day I'm going to buy three copies. :D

Get a straight Jacket boys!!:yep:

Kiss those tick marks goodbye! :O:

corporate rhetoric. they will be laughing their tootsies off. beautifully ironed, seems to be devoid of any real meaning: can't wait to grab a copy of the game: please cut my the chains, cut my chains - im a slave to SH!!!!!

Interessting.....
 

There are other "problem(s)" that might occur with DRM that's really a tech. problem(s),(very annoying though) not piracy, and I hope they can straighten/iron them out.

I know the issue(s) , but if I tell you I have to torpedo you all :fff::salute::arrgh!:.........................

i say we take a v11c boat over there and show them where they can stick there torpedo if you want my opinion and as kelsey grammar says in down periscope god i love this job

lt commander lare

Funny isn't it...
 

Funny isn't it...

None of the Anti-DRM ''ideological crusader'' had convinced me yet to boycott the game.. ..but, they, the marketing, are actually doing so. :nope:


Personally, what is shocking is not this:IT'S THIS: Anyone had read this? Their ''number one goal is to facilitate and enrich the gaming experience of our PC customers''.

:o:stare:

Isn't it hypocritical?


I didn't mind before to be connected (since I'm always connected anyway) to prevent or lower piracy but since this is their NUMBER ONE GOAL... they are gonna have a hard time convincing me that it's gonna facilitate and enrich my gaming experience...

Sorry, but this type of political & hypocritical discourse is disgusting...

I see this has turned into yet another DRM debate.

To the original topic by OLC: I don't see them admitting anything either. They say it offers protection against piracy, and they say that anything which helps to reduce piracy lets them concentrate on other stuff. Nowhere do they say that it won't help, or even hint at that. All they do is try to justify what they're doing.

This topic is silly, there is no such thing as preventing piracy. You can try to minimize it, or slow it down, but those guys always find a way to crack whatever they want to crack.

You can use this as a reason to attack DRM if you want, but there is no system in the world that cant be cracked. Ubi knows that, they're just trying to slow it down, and online authentication does do that.

They dont admit it, but they use word "lower" instead of "stop", which would, atleast to me, indicate that they have no 100% faith that this new DRM does anything against piracy. :03:

But is it really worth it to bug their customers for what, an week, maybe a month worth of extra sales? And once it's cracked, the DRM comes void and only continues to give trouble for the legal owner of the game.

Wasn't it originally about DRM? :haha:

No.

It was about whether UBIsoft admitted that the proposed system would work or not. That does necessarily include the mention of DRM, but it doesn't justify starting the "I hate DRM" argument all over again.

Of course, I agree, there's is no perfect solution against piracy.

But using the cover that their number one goal is to ''facilitate and enrich the gaming experience'' is pretty hypocritical.

I was going argue that you had misused that term, but after double-checking the dictionary I have to admit that you could be right on the mark.

Well regardless of what they say, we know nothing will stop piracy, and they know that as well. I think all they are trying to do is make us feel comfortable about the switch to this new system, and until you see some reviews of it or play the game yourself, you have no right to assume what this system will or will not do.

They say it will enrich the gaming experience, maybe it will, maybe it wont. Not a single one of us knows. But to just assume it wont before the game is even out doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me.

You're just assuming it wont enrich it because you dont like having to play online, but what about those of us that do? Maybe, just maybe, there will be something cool about this for the rest of us, some advantage to it that benefits the gamer. You guys are unwilling to see the other side of the fence, I dont get that.

Ubi is ignoring basic marketing rules. One of the most basic is: Never insult your client's intelligence.

It's actually quite simple to spot when they are just making stuff up. I mean, look everywhere where there has been a big change, be it in movie industry or gaming industry. They always remind that they'll do this for our own good, before releasing something completely retarded. :O: It's marketing you know. ;)

But from some of your previous arguments you are already convinced that there will be benefits, and that they will outweigh any possible downside. So you are also arguing your side before you've seen the game.

Again, you are also assuming that it will enrich it and refusing to see the other side, so your arguments are no different or no better than those with whom you disagree. So you do get it; you just don't want to see it.