of course I would. People need to know what they are getting with things. Drm is a pretty big deal when your buying a product. Especially when you get slammed with no options for returning the product etc.

As for drama well I hate to beat on the suicide issue but really. Someone is always worse off and has experienced worse. Its not a competition and some things may seem trivial now but that doesn't mean they should be expelled from criticism or other discussion.

To everyone:

Don't get me wrong this wasn't a ''Get-a-Life'' message thread.

What I really meant is that, if some talk with their entourage about DRM with the same level of anger and exasperation than they talk about it here, then maybe it's gonna be what people around them will think: Get a life! :hmmm:

Don't worry, you're not the only one! :03:

But when a girl hurts you so badly, it's kinda of hard to be back on our feet. :-?

hmm well no one I know in real life plays SH so only on here.

However, if I was back in college in my Economics classes etc and this discussion would fit, I would bring up it up in general terms, would spark a great discussion.I do recall discussions related in some ways to the current DRM debacle.

Sure you can blow this off as a silly squabble over the game but if you look deep, you see its about freedom of choice when it comes to a product one spends their money on and the ability to use it as he sees fit and a company's greed because piracy argument is a cop out, something to think about.

Lets just hope when they knock off DRM they don't go back to starforce


*shudders*

All in all Starforce was pretty mild. It was offline, no marketing gathering data, all game data was local. It was just some anti-piracy software that wasn't written the best and got a little too deep in the local machine.

Girlfriend thinks this stuff is pretty boring but can see my point. I don't think she sees why it's important to get upset about it. I am sad to use Nazis as a reference but it is like the saying "First they came for the communists, then my neighbors, and I did not speak out..." I see people break $100 software CD and go and buy a replacement without knowing about things like "replacement media" and "separation of media and license." People usually are like sheep and will accept a lot, mostly because they don't know.

When the boat is going slowly to a waterfall it is you that looks crazy panicking. "Sit down you are rocking the boat, crazy person."

I did in fact talk about the DRM/OSP to my wife the other day at dinner.

I explained the situation to her.

she expressed that her opinion was "If you buy the game it seems that you should be able to use it any time you want... no matter what your internet connection's status might be."

she is a smart girl

They don't know what exactly?

With such example, could you say that Chesley Sullenberger (the pilot who successfully landed his plane on the Hudson river) should have panicked instead of staying calm?

Apart from marrying you? (j/k)

:D

They don't know things like "Your cell phone and cell phone service can be separate products" which can lead to poor customer choices.

Of course not since that was a case of staying calm while doing the right thing. Many people are ignorant or complacent with wrongdoing by firms in terms of customer rights which means unhelpful inaction when some level of action would be prudent.

S.A.S. FTW!

But to answer THE question: Yes, I would. As a matter of fact I have raised the question of DRM in SH5 with my girlfriend... Alas she is more interested in other "games". :haha:
So I think I will play along... :yeah:

Seriously: I would love to have a word with people responsible for the marketing decisions. I would ask them one simple question: "How did you manage to f**k up so bad such a promising franchise?"

Interesting question.

For me, the subject hasn't come up outside of this forum. But if it did, I'd talk freely about it.

Discussed it at work today as it happens
Quite a few " casual " gamers there some who play SH3/4

All decided they wouldnt be buying SH5 due to the online connection needed
So the casual gaming market isnt interested either - well the ones I know
:rotfl2:

brought up the issue with the other IT students.

the end of the discussion was:

I would rant about things like this to my friends if I had any (hmm, maybe that is a reason why I don't).
Are there worse things? Yes. Disease, hunger, violence, not having had a girl in years, war, processed cheese... the list is endless.

However, I think it's indicative of the atittude in public/corporate life changing for the worse. An ever-increasing prevalence of dodgy practices (Restrictive licenses when you think you bought something. Attempts to trick you into subscriptions you don't in fact want. An appaling lack of respect for your privacy, by both businesses and governments. Hidden attempts to cut costs while charging full price by craftsmen. Etc, etc.) undermines the atmosphere of trust and professionalism that's required to make a market society work well.

I feel ever more inclined to satisfy more of my needs via bartering, open software, homegrown/made stuff... and I'm an economist.

Actually, I may blog about it later this week on LJ. Especially now that I've had time to look at the RPG elements of the game.

Oh. Yes. I'll have lots to say about that. :har:

Well, I was just joking... really. :O:


-RC-

Yeah, id say something like.

"Hey man, wanna hear some bull? Games by this Publisher made it so you have to be online to play a f*king single player game, and it won't work without a constant internet connection. Like it's an MMO or some such crap. I'll bet they start charging monthy fee's next."

Thats exactly what id say in real life. It's not far fetched.

No
number 1, most would tell me to get a life :haha:.
number 2 DRM is not that big a drama for me anyway.

All of my friends, and my wife, are gamers. Some of them fans of the SH series. I have talked about this sitting in a group with them...