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Even if you were to take a film camera to a real war and film it would still be a slanted view depending on where in the battlefield you are filming and what you are filming etc. |
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The word "propaganda" implies government involvement and direction with the writing and production, and not just with technical details like what rifle or uniform is correct for the time period being portrayed but rather controlling the storyline itself to generate a particular impression on the countries involved. This does not happen in BoB. The government did not tell Ambrose what to write or Spielberg what to film. |
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I totally agree with your opinion of Ryan, not much reality there except for the violence, but I disagree on BoB. I have met personally several of the actual men and got to talk to them:salute:. There are parts of the show that are totally realistic (the history behind it). The directors changed weird things from the actual events. example: the nazi american guy from oregon. He was from Portland and not Eugene (as the show said.) |
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@xabbarus; which Russian warfilms do you like? |
Hello,
us germans also have some alert levels, from XabbaRus in another post: "> The Germans also increased their alert state from "Disdainful > Arrogance" to "Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs." They also > have two higher levels: "Invade a Neighbour" and "Lose". " Hehe sad endings have a tradition here, we are always working on perfecting those traditions and what we began. To be german means to do something for the sake of itself :smug: B.t.w. I only meant this "propaganda" to be found in "Private Ryan", not "Band of Brothers" - and prop. is most probably not the right word, but PRyan makes the invasion and the figthing in Normandy look like a cake walk and heroic in a Hollywood way. And is there any real (non Hollywood) evidence that the US army gave a damn about whether one more member of a family died in the war, not mentioning sending out a unit to save him ? Greetings, Catfish |
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Woot! OTH on it again! :rock:
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I saw Ryan when it came out in the movies. With a good surround sound system the opening scene was pretty good, and didn't have the usual CGI-overflow that many present day movies have.
However upon recent viewing I began to notice those 'cute' Spielberg-moments and the visceral impact of the opening scene had gone and I just remembered why he should stick to making movies about fluffy space aliens and the sort. |
Hello NikiMcBee,
You wrote: " ... Maybe hollywood hoopla. Quote: ' evidence that the US army gave a damn about whether one more member of a family died in the war ' There is, but I doubt they would pull a ranger squad away from the invasion to go look for them.:doh: ... " I certainly meant sending out a ranger squad, not that they would not care about their dead soldiers, my fault sorry ! @August: I still think that how the brave inspired US troops fought against this thoroughly villain, but however "helpless SS" doomed to lose, was not how it really was, as far as i read it was much more gruesome - both sides - but then you probably do not want to show this in a film. Greetings, Catfish |
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