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Stealth Hunter 11-30-08 02:15 PM

I find the prospect of Yahweh having a wife to be quite funny:

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archi...8/1679514.aspx

Judaism, in it's true form, is not a monotheistic religion.:rotfl:

baggygreen 11-30-08 10:53 PM

I reckon the egyptians had the right idea, their gods only lasted on average 30 or 40 years, and if you didnt like him they just killed thir god and got a new one!:p

On a more serious note tho, interesting that Ahkenaten mandated that the many gods be ignored and only 1 god, Ra, be acknowledged. Monotheism several thousand years before it was the 'in thing'. fascinating.

Frame57 11-30-08 11:36 PM

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Sure Stealth! When is the last time you saw a jew or Christian cut someones head of on Al Jazeera? Honestly, if you believe that comment of yours your IQ must be below 70.

If you think that the wrong-doings of a thousand people constitute the feelings and opinions of 1.3 billion, you've got some serious ****ing problems with math.

And also take note that the Muslims in the 7th century were perfecting the arts and sciences while the Christians were burning heretics and witches. I'll say it again, it was no different to the Christians or Jews. ALL RELIGIONS (except for Buddhism) believe that if you are not following their belief system, you are an infidel...

I make no excuses for the (Roman Catholics) and what they did in the crusades and Inquisitions. Guilty as charged! But you must read your history with regards to the sultans and the havoc they raised in the same time period, but the difference is, is that they have not reformed and continue their fanatical views on the world in our day and time. there is no comparison to what the muslim extremist are doing in Indonesia and Africa today. Not to mention the more news worthy acts of terrorism that we hear of.

caspofungin 12-01-08 07:12 PM

another religion thread. F*cking brilliant.

tell you all what, why don't we all save our keyboards a few hundred hits and just dredge up one of the old threads and repost it, because there's nothing new in this one.

1. we are all, with respect to religions other than our own, arguing from a position of ignorance. there's no way i know as much about christianity as frame57. there's no way skybird knows as much about islam as konovalev (or myself). so on, and so forth.

you can read it, you can watch it, but that's not the same as living it.

2. we are all making assumptions based on what we see on tv or have read, which can no way be extrapolated to represent the millions of muslims, christians, hindus, jews, etc. (including atheists) who, i sincerely hope, for the most part wish to live their lives in peace.

3. posts consist of demagoguery, misquotations, fallacious arguments, and poor logic, for the most part.

finally, and most importantly,

4. posting these assumptions and refuting them serves no purpose, because no one ever changes their mind here.

i'm as guilty of feeding the flames as the next guy, i'm just saying don't we all have something more constructive to fdo?

baggygreen 12-01-08 07:14 PM

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another religion thread. ****ing brilliant.

And yet you chose to post in it and in so doing, cause it to rise again right to the top of the first page...:shifty:

sorry couldnt resist :p

Skybird 12-01-08 07:23 PM

Thread not started by me, but the mods. Don't hold me responsible for this. It got separated from a thread on religious terrorism, because religious terrorism does seem to have nothing to do with religion anymore, apparently.

Stealth Hunter 12-01-08 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by caspofungin
another religion thread. ****ing brilliant.

Maybe I'll make another one, in addition to Rockstar's "Book of Daniel" thread.

caspofungin 12-01-08 07:24 PM

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And yet you chose to post in it and in so doing, cause it to rise again right to the top of the first page
my weakness puts food on the table of religious leaders everywhere :D

baggygreen 12-01-08 07:27 PM

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And yet you chose to post in it and in so doing, cause it to rise again right to the top of the first page
my weakness puts food on the table of religious leaders everywhere :D

:rotfl:

Stealth Hunter 12-02-08 04:33 PM

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Skybird 12-02-08 04:36 PM

I'd prefer Muslims to stop "militants" from acting in Islam's name, and topple religious authorities and governments fostering them. After the deed is done, words are cheap. but point them at the passages where the Quran demands the killing of infidels and the discrimination of Jews and Christians, and they feel offended and say they cannot act against their fellow muslims.

I don't give a penny anymore for what Islamic communities say about Islamic terror. They are not about preventing it - they are about their perverse idea of what is their "honour" and how it is to be respected, this precious "honour", and how their "honour" is not to get offended, and that it is to be seen as so very important and unique.

Accept getting attacked by Islamic activists, but do not point finger at Islam - that is all it is about. Spit.

when they delete major components of Quran that makes Quran an unforgiving, totalitarian enemy of all non-Islamic mankind, when they hand over "radicals" from their middle all by themselves, and crush the tyrants and the religious autocrats representing them, and start inviting foreign cultures to islamic countries and build as many temples and culture centres for them as mosques are build in christian europe, and when they brake the power of Muslim countries massively financing Islamic terrorism and assisting the Islamic hijacking of the Western societies, countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, Lybia - then we can talk again about re-evaluation of relations and to what degree we should start to respect our former enemy.

But not one day earlier. The magic word is "reciprocity". And the West leads by over 40 years of prior concessions that are more or less completely - unanswered. Colourful words only, and symbolic acts - are cheap only, and cost nothing.

Nicolas 12-03-08 02:14 AM

Hello :D
Oh a Crhistian here! :rock:
Everyone that commits sins are slaves of the sin, who can deny that, you can bury the sin but its still there, waiting to show up, you will be free only if Someone sets you free, Someone paid the price of your sins. Shame so many people are wasting the grace of God :damn:

Stealth Hunter 12-03-08 07:18 PM

Oh dammit. Not more preaching, PLEASE.:x

Skybird 12-03-08 07:43 PM

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Oh dammit. Not more preaching, PLEASE.:x

What he says. :shifty: Keep thy religion to thyself.

August 12-03-08 09:30 PM

Ignore the athiests. A little preaching is not out of place in a thread discussing religion.

Stealth Hunter 12-04-08 12:13 AM

:rotfl:

It's quite out of place in a thread discussing the problems with religion.

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Sky, you'll be happy to hear this (I know I was):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Kh-xzerjE

XabbaRus 12-04-08 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird
Thread not started by me, but the mods. Don't hold me responsible for this. It got separated from a thread on religious terrorism, because religious terrorism does seem to have nothing to do with religion anymore, apparently.

Whether it got split by the mods or not you did in fact start it.


:yawn

Skybird 12-04-08 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird
Thread not started by me, but the mods. Don't hold me responsible for this. It got separated from a thread on religious terrorism, because religious terrorism does seem to have nothing to do with religion anymore, apparently.

Whether it got split by the mods or not you did in fact start it.


:yawn

Nonsens, as long as an act of religious terror is not forbidden to be named as an act of religiously motivated terror, which indeed I did, in a sarcastic manner.

I did not and have not for over a year started any thread on relgion and atheist disucssions. check my profile and list of started threads if you don'T belioeve it. I just posted it two weeks ago, but you can find it yourself.

What did you think the mumbai attacks, carried out by Muslim terrorists educated and trained in Pakistani Quran schools, were about? A form of violant protest against the high level of unemployment?

Get real, Xabba. identifying the attackers to be acting on the basis of the relgion they claim, does not mean to launch a theological debate. If you want that, take Rockstar's bible class as an example of how to do that. but if you think islak,imc terrorism has nothing to do with religion and islam, then you make a very big mistake.

Skybird 12-04-08 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter
:rotfl:

It's quite out of place in a thread discussing the problems with religion.

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Sky, you'll be happy to hear this (I know I was):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Kh-xzerjE

:up: healthy reason by the man. religious motivation understood that way i have no problem with.

The video is only an excerpt, I knew the full speech before, you can find it here:

http://obama.senate.gov/speech/060628-call_to_renewal/

kurtz 12-04-08 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicolas
Hello :D
Oh a Crhistian here! :rock:
Everyone that commits sins are slaves of the sin, who can deny that, you can bury the sin but its still there, waiting to show up, you will be free only if Someone sets you free, Someone paid the price of your sins. Shame so many people are wasting the grace of God :damn:

What's this? Someone paid the price of my sins before I committed them? Did they pay the full whack or slightly over? If it was over does that mean I've got a bit of sinning I can do?
This was a thread about how religion leads to terrorism and this post is plain weird, and TBH is symptomatic of the thinking which makes these people think they have the god given right to dictate to others what they should think. When of course what you should think is...


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