SUBSIM Radio Room Forums - Slam Obama (merged)

SUBSIM Radio Room Forums (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/index.php)

- General Topics (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/forumdisplay.php?f=175)

- - Slam Obama (merged) (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=143074)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Sheesh folks, let's agree to a couple of things. Let me toss 'em out one by one:

Bush is no conservative. Ronald Reagan was a conservative. Bush is no leader. Ronald Reagan was a leader, who commanded the respect of those who did not agree with him. What Bush does does not reflect on conservatives at all, or conservatism.

President Clinton was the best Republican he could be for six years. His whole presidency after 1994 was based on finding out what the Republicans wanted and doing it first. Although liberal by inclination, Clinton was an opportunist, who chose his actions by ease of accomplishment and estimated amount of popular acclaim that would result. Were Clinton president on September 11, 2001, he would have done exactly what President Bush did, including the war in Iraq, and for the same reasons.

Actually, both Bushes and Clinton were identical types of president. They would say they had a position, walk into a meeting and say, "but who cares what I think, let's make a deal." The only area where HW Bush showed any leadership was the war against terrorism and Iraq, and he was unable to explain satisfactorily why he did the right thing. That yields the same result as doing the wrong thing.

I am a conservative, but conservatives are making a grave mistake by calling liberals a bunch of pansies. If Obama is elected president (and I predict he will, God help us) and if he pulls out of Iraq (I believe he won't, among lots of other things he won't) our army will have a shadow when it returns and the shadow will gleefully switch from fighting trained and well-armed volunteers in their part of the world to killing defenseless civilians in our country. I would give 50% odds that within a couple of years of our return we will wake up to a large northeastern or Californian city being wiped off the face of the earth by a nuclear explosion. Note that it will be a liberal city.

At that point, all the Republicans who think the American liberals are a bunch of pansies will learn that they are wrong. The liberals are doing nothing more than giving the militant Islamic terrorists one last chance. Their reaction to the inevitable payback for their pullback from the foreign battlefield will be an unrestrained attack of unbridled fury and death. The war of the Republicans sacrificed American lives to avoid undue civilian carnage and tried to protect the innocent. The liberal backlash will do no such thing. The words "fuel-air bomb" will be literally burnt into your memory for the rest of your life. It will be middle eastern destruction, a war of unimaginable cruelty without regard for life or property, friend or foe. But unlike the Republican patty-cake war, it will work. After all, peace with an implacable enemy only results from resounding, complete victory in war.

You can make friends afterwards with the survivors, if any.

If you think that the war in Iraq was or is 'taking the fight to the enemy' then I think you are bordering on the delusional Rockin Robins.

9/11 was allowed to occurr in part because the Bush administration took its eye off the ball and ignored intelligence reports that Bin Laden was planning an attack on US soil.

Why was Bush's gaze distracted?

Iraq was a Bush target from day 1 of his presidency long before 9/11.

You dont think it was more a case of "that sh!t can't happen here", mrbeast?

I personally find it easy to cry incompetence that they missed the signs, christ i said to my dear old mother about a week before how frustrating it was that more wasn't being done as something was in the works. That was simply from wide reading and a gut feeling. Never imagined 9/11 though, obviously.

I think however, they simply didn't think it was possible. People dismissed the fears and intelligence brought to them because lets face it, they all got plenty of warnings and not once did they come true, why should this one?

I don't necessarily believe he was distracted with iraq, i still havent made up my mind fully. I do believe they simply dismissed the warnings out of... a false sense of security.

As for the tower being a conspiracy FB, well you oughta know full well that you dont need to destroy something like a tower's supporting beam, merely weaken it to the point where it can no longer support the weight above it. But lets not go into that in this thread, theres been enough debate about it over the years.

Finally, to put an on-topic comment in here - Like i posted in the other thread about BHO's friends, it'll be interesting to seewhat comes of it all. I can't wait, its like reading a thriller

Quote:

Originally Posted by baggygreen

Like i posted in the other thread about BHO's friends, it'll be interesting to seewhat comes of it all. I can't wait, its like reading a thriller

Let's just hope that the thriller's author has a good ending written:D

LOL at the silly alegations. :|\\

Man, listening to american party sympathizers is worse then reading russian propaganda over georgia. I hereby predict the next US civil war within the next 10 years if this goes on. Heavens. :nope:

nah, it's always been that way here. But even Jefferson said we should revolt every 20 years to clean up the house, and remind those we elect who really has the power in the country.

:o:o:o - He represents the end of America! :o

-S

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

:o:o:o - He represents the end of America! :o

-S

Um.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf6YKOkfFsE

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

:o:o:o - He represents the end of America! :o

-S

Um.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf6YKOkfFsE

Uhh, if you didn't want to vote for McCain after watching that, you must lack any brain cells. McCain is showing that he himself is respectable by his words. Obama however has no respect for anyone. You must be too young to be able to read properly into what you just posted.

-S

PS. This post says it all:

Quote:

agamenon1963 (1 minute ago) Reply

I was undecided,now i know im gonna vote Mccain

Props to the old woman at 0.59. Thats just to good!

Let's see, from that video, the Arabs and Muslims seem to think America is too strong. So I guess Obama has to correct that for them. That is what is really happening here.

No why Obama's preacher doesn't like him? It is not for starting his campaign off with titties and ass, it is because Obama's preacher knows the real Obama.

-S

Obama confirms everyone has Aids

It's interesting that we have found more than 300,000 Iraquis in mass graves, murdered by the Hussein regime. I'm delusional that we should be there.

But the other night when Obama was advocating attacking the Sudan, where about 150,000 have been killed. Some kind of a disconnect has taken place there. Obama would go to war for less egregious wrongs with no strategic purpose relating in any way to our national security.

Try this on for size. Had Clinton been President he would have done the identical thing. Less than a month after 9-11 my liberal newspaper was running articles on how could be NOT attack Iraq with all the nasty things going on there. They called attention to the fact that Clinton sent a sizable proportion of our cruise missile inventory to northern Iraq to take out an Al Quaeda training camp. He made a lot of noise about it too.

However, Democrats can say "Bush lied. People died." This after they stopped Bush from acting until they could join in a vote to authorize the attack. This after they made the same statements about Sadaam's weapons of mass destruction that Bush did. Kerry even based his entire reelection campaign on it. When the US Army had Baghdad in a stranglehold, Sadaam made a radio broadcast, reported by all networks, releasing the weapons of mass destruction for use. Nobody lied. Democrats know it.

Actually somebody did lie. Democrats knowingly lied when they said that Bush lied. They knowingly lie when they say we do not belong in Iraq. Their own newspapers were rattling the sabers before the war began asking why Bush was taking too long. Former President Clinton said his biggest regret was that he never had a similar opportunity. This is all documented fact.

Unfortunately the koolaid drinkers believe whatever their puppet masters tell them. That is a self-correcting situation, but more naive young people are being bred all the time to take their place. I pray that they learn the error of their ways before they can unwittingly do too much harm. They will surely regret their present foolishness later in life.

Dunno, seems pretty tasteless, not my thing.

:huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :hmm: :hmm: :hmm: :hmm: :88) :88) :88) :88) I dont get it? All I know is it had the word Aids in it alot.

Obama in title + TROLLMAN1 as OP = /me leaves thread

:shifty:

I think I just had a vision.:huh:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

Obama in title + TROLLMAN1 as OP = /me leaves thread

:shifty:

Perfect!

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

:o:o:o - He represents the end of America! :o

-S

Um.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf6YKOkfFsE

Quote:

agamenon1963 (1 minute ago) Reply

I was undecided,now i know im gonna vote Mccain

Me and McCain do not agree on the issues.

Also McCain has a temper problem.