Uh oh, not this "back in the day" bullcrap again. Yeah yeah, back in the "old days" everyone was polite, no one raped, molested children, murdered or wrote bad checks. Politicians were 100% honest and everyone was ruff tough and hard to bluff.

I live in a blue state now. I grew up in a red state. I'll tell you what a cesspool is. Lynchburg VA, Pulaski VA, Bluefield WV or any place in West Virginia for that matter. Conservatives are nothing more than a bunch of overweight hold overs from a forgetten era. They sit around and join in the 1 hour "hate" with Bill O'Reilly. They blame all them "homos, blacks and perverted MTV dances" on their problems.

I was raised to think this way, but I found the people screwing me over and making sure my paycheck kept me poor were white bible beating republicans. They were the ones screwing me over, not the liberals I was bred to blame all my problems on.

OP: The US is a democracy. If the citizens of an area want to let non-citizens rule them, despite your oh-so-modern-and-reformed views on, well, everything, so be it. What are you afraid of, that if we allow those smelly foreigners (would you believe it, some of them have dark skin? Dark, I tell you, daaark!) to hold public office, eventually atheists will be allowed in, too:p?

Residing in Norway, I'd have nothing against a foreigner holding public office here. Why would I? The US might have changed since I lived there, but when I did it was a democracy, where people voted. Don't want someone to take the reins of your city, regardlessly of his political abilities, simply because he's not a citizen?

Vote for the other guy.

The left(n): People I disagree with, see also scapegoat. Example: "Someone proposed to let non-citizens hold office in the USA, must be commie leftists who hate Christ".

Hilarious in the sense that it forgets that it's the poor who works, hardest, often having to take more than one job to make ends meet.

Smear against politicians I can understand, but when right-wingers say we shouldn't vote for a candidate because his voters are lazy, that takes it all to a whole new level. It's like saying, "don't vote for Obama, or you're as dumb as these people":roll:.

Those damned Negroes couldn't vote, and neither could our child-factories, sorry, women, who also couldn't press charges for martial "rape". We could beat our kids with belts, we had nice, segregated neighborhoods and chools so we didn't have to see those damned darkies, and our teachers respected that Christianity should be taught to every student, even if it meant blatantly disregarding those little children's religions. Atheists, fags and race traitors partaking in intersexual relationships were beaten up on sight as they should be, and the rest of the world feared the might of the US Army, as commanded by Presidents who knew that the US should rule the world.

Then, liberals :sneers:.

Good post Safe-Keeper, I was feeling alone thinking I was the only liberal who liked submarines! Arnold Schwarzenegger has been a really good governor and he is from Austria.

The conservatives are in sad lot these days. Their time is over and it has been for while. Until they are able to clone Ronald Reagan they are pretty much screwed. The republicans vote their morality at the balot box, even though that isn't what voting is about. They vote against their own economic well being because they think they are sticking it to lazy welfare blacks.

The good news is the republicans got greedy under Bush. He took too much too fast and even the lowest citizen who doesn't think about politics feels the pain at the gas pumps. People have lost homes and buried their sons and daughters over the Vietraq war.

A conservative won't bat an eye when you tell them about the hundreds of thousands who are dead because of the Vietraq war, but they will fly into an emotion rage if you mention Clinton getting a blowjob.

Reminds me of the line from Fiddler On The Roof:

"It's not what it once was."

"I'll tell you a little secret, my friend. It never was 'what it once was'".

And you're right, of course.

And America has been going to hell in a handbasket for 200 years. Just ask anybody on the losing side of any election.

Hey Flaming, can you tell me what these numbers represent:

1950 5.3
1951 4.9
1952 5.2
1953 4.8
1954 4.8
1955 4.5
1956 4.6
1957 4.5
1958 4.5
1959 4.6

1961 4.7
1962 4.8
1963 4.9
1964 5.1
1965 5.5
1966 5.9
1967 6.8
1968 7.3
1969 7.7
1970 8.3
1961 4.7
1962 4.8
1963 4.9
1964 5.1
1965 5.5
1966 5.9
1967 6.8
1968 7.3
1969 7.7
1970 8.3
1971 9.1
1972 9.4
1973 9.7
1974 10.1
1975 9.9
1976 9.0
1977 9.1
1978 9.2
1979 10.0
1980 10.7
1981 10.3

I have no clue. *walks into trap to see what happens.....

lemme have a stab at it (havent checked the entire thread, so ill just guess a little)

the number % of democratic voters through those years'
dollar course ?:rotfl:
Submans IQ over time ? (Just kidding;))

:rotfl:

Probably unemployment rates. Since they peak under Carter. That's my guess now that I look at it. Reagan fixed all that by deregulating, aka privatizing everything he got his hands on.

The 1960s are repeated? :yep::D

That sounds like a good idea:rotfl:

They are being repeated. We have a modern Vietnam, kids dead for nothings. Well corporate profit, but still, not a reason to send poor kids to their death. We have a hated president that makes Nixon look popular. The economy is in the toilet. I stand in line for gas.

The only thing we are missing is the protesting, but the nation is all on prozac so they look at the TV with the enthusiasm of a cow chewing sleepily on some grass.

Mooooooooooooooooooooo.

Yep, when American Idol is more popular than what is going on in your nation, it's a sad situation.

Homicide rates?

It can either be characterized as stupid or evil. I lean toward evil.

Wonderful socialist/liberal principles we can all cheer about:

The cure for the economic malaise causing unemployment is to help the wage earner by dramatically raising taxes on wage payers. Especially the evil energy companies, who make a lower profit margin than Wal-Mart, who provide all the energy we don't have enough of, on whose ingenuity we depend to become energy self-sufficient, they need to be punished. Let's take half of their profits. Screw them!

The US Navy visits San Francisco (source: Gallant Lady, a biography of the USS Archerfish). A brilliant lefty, Nancy Pelosi, learns that these ships are packing nukes (damn! a little nukie never hurt anybody!), so she throws a hissy fit and ends up passing legislation that forces the Navy to offload the nukes into a San Fran warehouse. She then begins to bring pressure to bear to truck them out of there, at which point the House membership jumped ship on her and not one would take the nukies for their very own. Result: Nanci Pelosi succeeded in having a significant portion of the Naval nuclear arsenal semi-permanently esconced in her socialist city of love. She is a genius!

They, the socialist/liberal non-thinkers think that a major wrong in the US economy is that too small a number of home loans go to captialist fat cats. Too small a portion goes to those "economically less fortunate." In 1977 under Jimmy Carter, Congress passed the feel-good Community Reinvestment Act (CRA). In the 1990's a radical group of "militants unafraid to confront the powers that be" (their words) called the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) found a way to forge an unholy trinity of (1) street protests, filling bank lobbies full of unruly protesters to scare away customers, intimidating bank executives' families at their homes, (2) legal threats to keep banks from expanding, based on the seemingly beneficial CRA, and (3) a very effective group of lobbyists in Washington, who succeeded in tying the commendable liberal goal of expanding home ownership into a forced shakedown of Chicago financial institutions. Here's the playbook. A bank wants to put a branch in a new location. ACORN sues the bank under the CRA provisions and begins intimidation of the bank's existing branches and managements' families. To get the dogs called off the bank says they will make $20 million in loans to people who do not qualify, the "less fortunate." In later refinements of the bank robbery ACORN gloms the cash and makes the "loans" itself! To keep the crime going, the lobbyists in Washington complete the circuit of extorsion by using Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac to buy these worthless loans and relieve the banks from having to try to collect them. It's hush money, nothing more. The trainer for Madeline Talbott's Chicago branch of ACORN, the first to perfect the racket? Barack Obama, community organizer. Now you know what his function as a community organizer was. Link1 Link2 Link3 The full truth is worse than I have briefly outlined. Let's pretend the goals and methods of ACORN were good. The means to achieving their "good" was ruining the very people they pretended to help, those new temporary homeowners who are now all losing everything. Call that stupidity. I'll continue to call it evil.

Over 40% of the electorate pays no federal income taxes at all. The bottom 50% of income tax payers pay only 2.9% of total federal income taxes paid. The bottom 80% pay only 31% of federal income tax. We have reduced the political process in the United states to a class war between those who pay little or nothing clapping their hands together with glee and voting tax increases on the minority who pay for everything they have, employ every one of them and already pay all the income taxes. The top 5% of taxpayers, that's those who made more than $153,542 in 2006, already pay 60.14% of all federal income taxes paid (source, Internal Revenue Service & Congressional Budget Office). Mr Liberal, how much more, in the name of fairness, should we seize from this group, which includes almost all the small businesses in America? This fatally flawed taxation system and its devastating effect on how our election process works is the single greatest threat to the republican form of government we say we love. (We are not a democracy, we're a republic, thank God. A democracy is two cats and a mouse voting over what's for dinner. Only a republic has the means to protect its minorities from tyranny). Heck, you deserve to be able to look at all the numbers, not just the ones I picked and chose. Linky. Don't look unless you are prepared to see how much worse the picture looks in its entirety than what I have briefly summarized above.

Will you ever see this information tied together like this on any news show, in a book, or even on conservative talk radio? NO. But it's information that will hurt us badly if we choose to ignore it.

Those on top who finance our lives and who we seek to punish are not like us. They take part in the economy not for the purpose of survival, but for personal fulfillment. They take part voluntarily. They do not need to have an income to survive. They have assets to live on. If they decide that they do not wish to participate in the liberal idiocy they can and will choose not to make an income. In a country where we punish achievement, they will choose not to achieve. They can do fine, living off their savings for years while collecting welfare, unempoyment benefits and sucking off the system they helped to create.

We, on the other hand, will starve. Our participation in the economy is not voluntary. No income means we die. Take a good look at the future. This is what we create by cooperating with the fallacy of liberalism as it is practiced by radicals such as ACORN and Barack Obama. I'd like to believe they are only stupid. It's much nicer that way.

I heard that if you remember the 1960's you didn't really experience them so if they were repeated how would you know?

Well, it would probably be like Deja Vu all over again:hmm:

Ah the future ain't what it used to be! :D

Today is only yesterday's tomorrow.

In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.