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Skybird 09-27-08 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum

It makes more sense to call the 2nd line, the 2nd line, rather than the 7th.

*edit* to put it more clearly:

It makes more sense to call Black's second line, blacks 2nd line, rather than White's 8th line.

Can't follow your logic there. And the international chess scene obviously also does not. I knew that this old notation system existed, and had a tradition in the anglosaxon world, but I never saw it as a loss that precise coordinate-depending notation is dominating.

However. ;)

Letum 09-27-08 11:43 AM

Remember, this is only the second real game I have played since I have left
secondary school at the age of 16. Thats some 6 or so years ago now.

I am very much a novice and out of practice.

Heres my resignation.

Skybird 09-27-08 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum
Remember, this is only the second real game I have played since I have left
secondary school at the age of 16. Thats some 6 or so years ago now.

I am very much a novice and out of practice.

Heres my resignation.

Couldn't remember that since I did not know it.

It was an uncomfortable match for me until after your 12. move, then I just needed to react to the errors you made. I assume you wanted to conduct a flying attack and did not calculate it precisely!?


You want a rematch or want to do an analysis?

Letum 09-27-08 12:15 PM

Ah, I thought you did.


If you post a screen of the situation after black's 11th move, how about we carry on from there?

Skybird 09-27-08 12:23 PM

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6199/image31qf1.jpg

White to move.

Letum 09-27-08 12:30 PM

Queen to h4

Skybird 09-27-08 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum
Queen to h4

12... O-O-O

Letum 09-27-08 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird
Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum
Queen to h4

12... O-O-O

Now theres some notation I haven't seen before...

UnderseaLcpl 09-27-08 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum

Now theres some notation I haven't seen before...

What, queenside castle?

Skybird 09-27-08 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird
Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum
Queen to h4

12... O-O-O

Now theres some notation I haven't seen before...

Yes, as Lance said, queenside castle. Kingside castle is O-O. Which, as I just researched, is being used in "Descriptive Notation" (that is the name of the old thing you have described) as well.
http://chessnotation.com/descriptive.htm

There is Long and Short Algebraic Notations as well, the two versions that I use, long for my main moves, short for variations. They are international standard in usage as well as literature today, both internantioanl chess associations make them obligatory, just sometimes the capital letter for major pieces get replaced with small little figurines (symbols like the one in chess diagrams)
http://chessnotation.com/algebraic.htm


Finally there is "coordinates", which is totally unofficial and not used in any literature at all. It has almost exclusively been brought into play by 7-segment-LED in computer displays of board computers of the 80s and 90s (E2E4). It has never been an accepted or officially used/allowed notation.

And last there is correspondence chess or ICCF notation, which in past times was necessary in order to use number stamps so that in certain nations the delvery costs for postcards could be kept cheaper, for there were special tariffs if only stamped information and no handwriting was used. In ICCF, a1 is 11 and h8 is 88, the move e2-e4 translates into 5254. Special ICCF postcards were - and are - used for this.
http://chessnotation.com/ICCFnumeric.htm

the only similiarity between all these notations is that all moves are numbered, always. ;)

I assume you never have filled a match form before, yes?

Additional symbology that is used a lot in literature here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation_(chess)

Letum 09-28-08 09:20 AM

Bc1-f4

Skybird 09-28-08 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Letum
Bc1-f4

Ouch, that hurts...!

my move 13... g7-g5

You should feel the effect from it soon.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2522/image29cb4.jpg


http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7796/image30dl4.jpg

Letum 09-28-08 11:03 AM

Ack!

I've lost again!

Skybird 09-28-08 11:47 AM

"Conan - what is best in life?" http://www.smileygarden.de/smilie/Fr...a.at_10391.gif

[shake-hands]

Skybird 09-28-08 12:25 PM

P.S.

Qg7 was NOT your loosing move, but the move after that.

You could have tried this enforced variation, which led me to my comment about a "highly asymmetrical endgame"

12. Qxg7 Ke7 13. Nh4 Rag8 14. Ng6+ Ke6 15. Qxh8 Rxh8 16. Nxh8 Qe8 17. Nxf7 Qxf7

that is a kill ratio of 2 rooks and 2 pawns (012 points) against 1 queen and 1 knight (=12 points).

Note that the variation'S moves all are enforced in order to0 keep the material balance - that's why it can be calculated 12 moves in advance.

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/7872/pos2re7.jpg


Difficult play for both. I have been happier at times.

Letum 09-28-08 01:31 PM

If I am not too tedious an opponent, your move for the next round?


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