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Kazuaki Shimazaki II 09-27-08 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Educate yourself on AESA radar - yes it has the ability to do what amounts to something similar to an EMP attack, though in a limited frequency range that the radar operates in,

Yes, and the range it can actually do that effectively on is also constrained by the limited power it has.

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and can jam,
I agree it will be a reasonably effective jammer in the X-band.

and there is some sort of requirement was for network penetration exists as well. That is the part that is unknown at this point - the network penetration portion. F-22 has this same capability.-S[/quote]

One must wonder how that last would work.

Zachstar 09-27-08 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazuaki Shimazaki II
For someone who claims to see everything with a grain of salt, you sure are drinking the American doctrine and propaganda down very hard.

The exercise probably reflected what happened when you stepped outside the American assumptions in air combat.

The radar is not orders of magnitude more powerful than everyone elses, and Americans don't get to escape Inverse Squared Law, so unless the range is absolutely point blank, it is not going to be blowing out anyone's electronics. What it will instead do is blow any LPI capability the radar had, since it'll have to match the frequency of the enemy's non-LPI radar to jam it, and then everyone gets a bearing track.

As for IR, it is getting better. And for the stealth, it still has to obey physics.

Educate yourself on AESA radar - yes it has the ability to do what amounts to something similar to an EMP attack, though in a limited frequency range that the radar operates in, and can jam, and there is some sort of requirement was for network penetration exists as well. That is the part that is unknown at this point - the network penetration portion. F-22 has this same capability.

-S

OOO the magic radar!!! YAY!!! You mean the same radar that some think will be like impossible to detect in use or somthing like that?

As for EMP attack? You mean the EMP that nukes give off and is easily defeated with a metal cage? You mean EMP effects that have been known about for decades?

Sea Demon 09-27-08 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar
As for EMP attack? You mean the EMP that nukes give off and is easily defeated with a metal cage? You mean EMP effects that have been known about for decades?

That's not a very accurate assessment of what the radar will do. From what I understand it will negate an enemies ability to fully utilize their radars range and scanning through some type of electro-magnetic beam focused towards the emitter. It's expected to be able to negate any accurate tracking of the enemy emitter. I'm sure there may be some drawbacks to it's uses, but combined with the other stuff in the F-35 package, I expect it to just be another tool in the basket for this aircraft. If you can negate an enemy radar to a certain extent, it gives you a pretty sizeable advantage.


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