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SUBMAN1 07-31-08 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar
I will trudge through this pile of crap but I can already tell it is exactly that.

Anyone saying there is "dark markets" etc.. Is just trying to find excuses to not face the cold hard fact that cheap oil is running out. That China is growing faster than you can say "WTF mate!" It is a REAL problem on forums like DU when data showing quota failures from OPEC from Russia and other areas is often laughed by a small group at and said is made up "just in time" to raise prices.

The real value of oil is over 100 USD. Accept it! Move on!!

Well read it and take it or leave it. It is only 2 pages long. It opens up your eyes to many things. I'm not saying the oil companies don't like what happened, but they are not the cause, just one of the benefactors.

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Zachstar 07-31-08 05:08 PM

Ok I read that pile of horse droppings and now my eyes want to bleed.

This is the same type of conspiricy style writing that the moon hoaxers use.

BTW, The next time you want to display a news item as "evidence" please be sure it is atleast semi-recent.

Wooo man subman I just do not know what to say. First GW is a conspiricy and now Oil prices are a conspiracy.


In my view and I am not a doctor so it is an opinion. I think you need to get examined. You know.. See if the clock is turning clockwise up there?

SUBMAN1 07-31-08 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar
Ok I read that pile of horse droppings and now my eyes want to bleed.

This is the same type of conspiricy style writing that the moon hoaxers use.

BTW, The next time you want to display a news item as "evidence" please be sure it is atleast semi-recent.

Wooo man subman I just do not know what to say. First GW is a conspiricy and now Oil prices are a conspiracy.


In my view and I am not a doctor so it is an opinion. I think you need to get examined. You know.. See if the clock is turning clockwise up there?

Feb 2008 is fairly recent.

Why don't you ask Skybird about it since i cannot obvioulsy open your eyes to anything no matter how overwhelming the evidence. You think I'm too far right to have a correct opinion, so ask someone who is really far left what they think. Sound like an idea? It is the only way to see eye to eye.

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Zachstar 07-31-08 05:39 PM

Ok first of all I am no fan of Skybird's.. I don't know where you got that idea but regardless it is wrong.

2nd I am not some "Far Left" person. I am a "Progressive" Which is right of liberal and slightly left of libertarian. Get it right!

And there is no "Eye Opening" on this. I have done my homework. And what is causing the prices is not "dark markets" but falling supply (Like the recent OPEC quota failure) and RAPIDLY growing demand (Recent article about citizens of china falling in love with SUVs and Trucks)

SUBMAN1 07-31-08 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar
Ok first of all I am no fan of Skybird's.. I don't know where you got that idea but regardless it is wrong.

2nd I am not some "Far Left" person. I am a "Progressive" Which is right of liberal and slightly left of libertarian. Get it right!

And there is no "Eye Opening" on this. I have done my homework. And what is causing the prices is not "dark markets" but falling supply (Like the recent OPEC quota failure) and RAPIDLY growing demand (Recent article about citizens of china falling in love with SUVs and Trucks)

Then you didn't do your homework as you claim.

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VipertheSniper 07-31-08 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl
Spiegel, "very left leaning magazine" ? :doh:

I guess for citizens of the US of A, almost any magazine from Continental Europe might appear very left leaning (although I can only speak from experience with Austrian, German and English magazines here)

Heh, I've read the report in the paper back then, and since then, the allegations that dealers and speculators are driving up the price were proven, just need to find a link to the actual report of the research that was undertaken to prove it.

Damn, can't find it, should've kept the newspaper I've read that in as reference to search in the right places.

SUBMAN1 07-31-08 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by VipertheSniper
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikhayl
Spiegel, "very left leaning magazine" ? :doh:

I guess for citizens of the US of A, almost any magazine from Continental Europe might appear very left leaning (although I can only speak from experience with Austrian, German and English magazines here)

You're probably right. We see things differently over here. Are left probably looks like your right over there.

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Zachstar 07-31-08 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SUBMAN1
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zachstar
Ok first of all I am no fan of Skybird's.. I don't know where you got that idea but regardless it is wrong.

2nd I am not some "Far Left" person. I am a "Progressive" Which is right of liberal and slightly left of libertarian. Get it right!

And there is no "Eye Opening" on this. I have done my homework. And what is causing the prices is not "dark markets" but falling supply (Like the recent OPEC quota failure) and RAPIDLY growing demand (Recent article about citizens of china falling in love with SUVs and Trucks)

Then you didn't do your homework as you claim.

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Don't borrow every statement from Alex Jones... Or the Moon Hoaxers..

SUBMAN1 07-31-08 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar
Don't borrow every statement from Alex Jones... Or the Moon Hoaxers..

I'm not quite who these people are. I'm sure you will tell me if i ask though since I think you brought it up somewhere else.

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Zachstar 07-31-08 06:05 PM

Why so you can forget it again? Wiki it Subman! And bookmark it!

I tire debating with conspiricy theorists. Only time removes the movements not reason. You want to believe GW is a conspiricy and the "dark markets" are out to get us go RIGHT ahead. I'm done and I am sure many others on subsim are done reading the idiocy as well.

Whats next Subman? Democrats paying for Chemtrails so we vote for Obama?

SUBMAN1 07-31-08 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar
Why so you can forget it again? Wiki it Subman! And bookmark it!

I tire debating with conspiricy theorists. Only time removes the movements not reason. You want to believe GW is a conspiricy and the "dark markets" are out to get us go RIGHT ahead. I'm done and I am sure many others on subsim are done reading the idiocy as well.

Whats next Subman? Democrats paying for Chemtrails so we vote for Obama?

I'm not going to take the time. Either you do it for me, or I don't really care! I'm probably not alone in asking this question I would bet either!

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Zachstar 07-31-08 06:07 PM

Of course you don't really care. Just like the moon hoaxers of old.

SUBMAN1 07-31-08 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar
Of course you don't really care. Just like the moon hoaxers of old.

Whatever. Suit yourself.

Nice picture by the way.

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McBeck 08-01-08 12:12 AM

This thread is going nowwhere...closing.


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