Ive tried running underclocked and stock freqs with all options set to app control (SH4 on minimum)... FSX will run decent nearly maxed (18-25fps locked at 25) although as you said the traffic will crush it or anything else for that matter. I use FSX for a quick benchmark because it will easily bring anything, and I mean anything, to its knees with the quickness. If anyone can correct me please do but FSX should rule out cpu, memory, and vid card. Although the ac97 ob sound is a major issue, so i have to emulate through usb cause im too lazy to throw a card in, even with the useless current driver. I have the ac97 problem on about half my games..

Also, has anyone found a solution for the (Faulting application sh4.exe, version 1.4.0.0, faulting module messagenet.dll, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x00003a49.) error? Ive read quite a few threads on this but no solution yet... here's a reference thread in case no ones familiar with it. http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...5/m/9811089445

I get this on any version but isnt always the cause for a ctd.

i apologize if this is legitimate. i bought into the "april fools" theory instantly.

i see some good advice and some bad advice in this thread... first the bad.

1. Just because ________ game worked fine doesn't mean it's not a hardware problem.

2. Just because your temperature readings and case ventilation appear fine doesn't mean it's not a heat-related problem.

3. Just because you think your OS is finely tuned doesn't mean it is (by hardcore gaming standards).

the good...

i don't think it's your hardware. Not even your Onboard soundchip. i think it's your dualboot config.

i ran a dualboot system when XP64 first hit the scene and had trouble with Sims, and only Sims. Falcon 4.0+MODS, for example. i wiped and went single OS and every problem running Sims went away.

Now i'm not telling you to wipe...

but i must ask the obvious questions: Why do you need two versions of XP? What purpose does it serve? How dedicated are you to running a hardcore gaming machine?

My experience with flight simulator (all it's incarnations) has been if it starts having issues, something is wrong with my system.

I too use it as a bench mark. It has always been the most stable program on my comp since my Tandy 1000. What is nice about flight sim is it very good at telling you what is wrong, it does not CTD, just run slower and slower, or the graphics go to hell.

Silent Hunter IV? VERY graphics intensive. Just look at the water. Every one of those ripples is using some part of memory, then there is the crew, the location of all the ships in the game, the clouds, the sub, even the idividual shells in a large surface battle. All of those and more are being kept track of by the computer. Flight sim is a chump compared to the graphics of SH IV. Even maxed out, flight sim cannot hold a candle to how much graphics are in both SH3 and SH4.

You want something to cook an old card? SHIV maxed out is it.

To conclude. Don't pay attention to the "required" system specs. Go for the fastest, highest memory "gamer" comp you can find and or afford. On such a machine SH IV is increadible, especially with one of the super mods applied.

onboard sound cards dont cut the mustard parade for intense gaming..

people here trying to run big visual and audio 3d games on 486 machines and crap ass laptops is a no go amfraid. hence your lockups and stutters.


maybe driver issues as well.. even on my top range system i had issues with drivers..

but i corrected this problem , and now sh4 runs like a hot knife through butter.

im no wizz, but i would say, put sh4 away, remove all elements of it from your system: clean uninstall.

play something else for a while and come back to it - forget about it even, for months and months

read this book:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Silent-Victo...7240188&sr=1-3

to keep you going with the interest you obviously have, dont throw it away or put a hammer through it !!

.........and return when the heat's gone off.

i struggled with sh3 when i started - turned out it was a graphics card issue + not enough memory. but i would'nt have known that back then coz i aint no wizz - took me ages to get it right, but i didnt give up.....

i completely understand the maddening rage it can cause when it f*&^%$ -up.
dont give up if you love it. :yep: :up:

this made me chuckle. you have it reversed... It is SHIV that cannot compete with Flight Sim X (DX10)'s system requirements on MAX settings.

MAXED OUT:
SHIV gets my GPU up to around 56c (25FPS)
FSX gets my GPU up to 65c (19FPS)

I run the dual boot for a veriety of reasons but the most important to begin with is the fact the x64 drivers came out very slowly (and are still) but there is a noticable difference in performance between 32 and 64 based code for the obvious reason that twice as much info is being sent down the bus. Granted when emmulating from 64 to 32 this requires more cpu time but in my opinion the advantage in speed is still appearant. Also Im happy to report that so far with a clean install to 1.4 ive been able to play over an hour with no ctd but not going to hold my breath just yet. Im begining to think that my d3d copy was corrupted but really have no evidence yet to support this just coincidence at this point. The only thing ive noticed so far thats in contrast with the last install is that the file sizes for the setup file where a few hundred megs different but since i deleted the old on I dont have an exact figure on that. Im taking a shot in the dark here but i think they updated the d3d files. Thanks for the help and advice everyone and ill continue to keep you posted!

i hear you. i was playing UT2004 in 64-bit mode and there was no loadtimes! none.

but then my beloved Falcon 4.0 would CTD so a wipe was needed.

if any of us, subsim gearheads, were to inherit your rig the first thing most of us would do is a full wipe and single kernel OS install. probably the reliable 32-bit. get that ship running as tight as possible:

Prime95 + Speedfan_log for 72 hours
ATITool (works for nvidia too) 3D-test for 72 hours
Install SHIV clean
Test @ MAX for hours, regardless of framerate

I'd bet good money this would expose the problem.

Walrusbomb, you do know FSX is probably the worst version of flightsim to come out in a while. I have heard it is really inefficient with rescorces, and memory. It also required a patch just to run when it first came out (very much like SH4).

The flight sim I have is FS9. Very stable, never crashes. Frame rates regularly 20 or so. With all sliders full over. SH4, best I can get is 15 or so with all features on.

I agree the game is a buggy and unfinished and may I say rushed out game. The gaming business is more concerned about profits than quailtity games produced as is expected. You're not alone in the frustration business. I bought Biohazard last year and was peeved to find out I needed an internet connection to patch the game or else it wouldn't run.

I'm sorry, but I just gotta say it. Give me 30 lashes with a wet noodle if you want but.... Flight Sim X kicks FS 2004s but-tocks. Even in DX9. Have you seen the F18A in the Acceleration pack. IT ROCKS!!!! Take off out NAS Atlanta full throttle w afterburner and within a few seconds you can see the curvature of the earth and by the time you reach max altitude dude you are starting to see the blue sky fading to black and stars comming out, all the while down on the earth below cars are wizzing up and down the highways, hawks are circling, freighters and tankers are traveling to ports all over the world and GA and commerical aircraft are headed to airports all over the world. You can go to freaking Africa and buzz walking elephants and Girraffs in an ultralight. If you are in a 172 off the coast of California depending on the season you can watch killer wales. dolphins or humpbacks swimming in the ocean (again based on the correct season of the year).

After a few hours in a dank dark tube, nothing is better than to take a sailplane up (with a towplane and towrope clearly visable in front of you) and then release said cable to circle in a thermal over a ridge with nothing but the sound of the wind (and that annoying accelerometer beeping in my ear) dude, FS2004 is a dark cave compared to FSX.

Oh yes, there have been a whole total of what 1 updates to FSX, and lets see we are on what number 5 for SHIV not to mention several zillion mods if you want things to work so so. If SHIV had the same following and commerical support that FSX had you would have already have a Cold War era add-onl, a WWI add-on, a civil war addon, and probably every submarine every created from the Turttle to the Virgina Class subs to download for free. You would even be able to add custom Conn art if you wanted too. Sooo before you go.....wait, take a deep breath....serinity now, serinity now.... Ok, I'm better now.

Sorry about the rant, but a nerve was stepped upon. My appoligies if I have in turn stepped upon anyone elses. As I have said before, My AMD 4200 FX2 with a 8500GT card and 3 gigs of ram will handle all of what the stock SHIV as to offer and some, but FSX will kill it if I run it over 3/4 max. When Aces released FSX they said there wouldn't be a computer avail to run it completely maxed out for probably two years. I think there about right since it was released in late 2006. Said my peace, probably peed in someones oatmeal this Am as well. If so I'm sorry, but don't blast something unless you have experienced it. NOTE: I have not compared anything to SHIV with any of the mods, because I have not installed any mods, so I have no experience with the mods, hince no ref to mods only to stock version. I practice what I preach. I will get off my soap box now.

Damn!!!!!!
 

Annie! This oatmeal tastes funny to me this morning. Can you check it out and see if it tastes strange to you too?:88)

FS9 + MODS is a dream. I get 50-90 FPS. I would never compare FS9 to SHIV.

SHIV is closer to FSX in graphical quality.

FSX is a beast. I still hold that the graphics are superior to SHIV, and I've played a lot of SHIV + ROW.

Arrrg, yes she is a beast, but she is a grand and wonderful beast. Treat her with respect and ye will be rewarded. Disrespect her, and ye will be treated with a slide show!(about 1 frame per min:)

I agree FSX is graphically closer to SHIV.

They are actually more alike than different. Now what would be really cool, would be to connect the two. Think of the multiplayer fun to be had with that.

Prop jockys VS the Bubble heads!

Can I have your stuff?

(Sorry couldent resist)

FED UP with SHIV? Surely not!!
 

As a newbie to the sub world and this forum, please pardon my newbie mistakes (if I make any). I have been reading with some amusement on this subject. Now I have had several crashes with SHIV, but that had to do with the mods that I've come to find out were incomp. with each other in my quest for the ultimate jap killing machine. Now I don't have the biggest, baddest machine on the planet. I bought an emachines Model W3644. I upgraded the memory and cpu right off the bat. My specs are listed as follows:

AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+ 3.0 ghz
4 GB memory (generic)
GeForce 6100 nForce 405 (integrated on-board video)
Integrated audio on board.
160 GB Western Digital HD
14 usb (permanent: 4 on board 2 in front; 2 add on cards with 4 ports each)
Also completely wireless
Standard Dell 17" Flat Panel Monitor

Now with this configuration, and having a spouse that can't remember to log off on her side of the comp. It has crashed 2 times on this machine, due to mod conflicts. Also this is not oc'd.

Now the other machine I have is an Inspiron 1501 Dell Laptop. Memory upgraded to 4GB (generic), and the cpu is an AMD Turion 2.0 ghz. And I have had 4 crashes on this machine, but this was due to driver updates from microsoft (which I have stopped doing from them! GOD I hate Microsoft!) not being installed properly. But I have since fixed those problems. And have 10 mods installed on this machine and have had no crashes or slow downs. Although I believe SHIV rocks, and its a great improvement over SHIII, there is still room for improvement from Ubisoft. So I would probably try testing your copy of SHIV on a buddies machine, if it still crashes then send Ubisoft an email telling them this. It may be your copy of SHIV has a corrupt file on it. It does happen to commercially sold products, rarely, but does happen. If it works on his machine then maybe you should take a hard look at what going on inside your case. Might be microsoft during an auto update screwed something up. Just my 2 cents.:rock:

Not sure
 

I definately think you have plenty of power. Prior to my HD failure I was running a e6700, 4 sticks of memory(2.1v each), a 8800GTS, 4 HARD drives, 6 fans,1 optical drive a hdtv tuner card and a creative x-fi fatal1ty pro sound card in a SLI capable 550 watt power supply. The sucker was running over a year until I upgraded to 880 watts a few days ago.

Whats the update on the new download+install..... :hmm:

slightly off-topic:

people, it's 2008! please update your videocard before buying more RAM... that is all.

I agree with FSX, although i think the minimum sys reqirements were a little low when it released causing all the hub-bub about performance (the game was designed for dx10 and we all know that you have to drop a kidney to get a nice dx10 card). In my case it was smooth flying after the dual core patch was released. Mine has been extreamly stable after getting some hardware tunned in and the graphics slaughter fs9.

On another note. After a full download and reinstallation of SH4 updated to 1.4 and after about 10 or 12 hours (with max settings) I have had not a single ctd. I think that my setup download was corupted but dont have any real evidence to that effect. I will now retract my first post and have humbly removed my foot from my mouth! Also, to everyone who kept me going and offering great advice I sincerely thank you all. This is an awsome community and most everyone here is very very friendly and helpfull...

Thanks again!