Give it an ubaised chance Happy Times and you just might enjoy it :)

if your not having a dinsdale expirience like i did :rotfl:

the only good thing SHIV has is the graphics.

The bugs present really arent as determental as some people make them out to be, at leastt i dont think so, but then again i have a high tolerance for that sort of thing. If something in the game bugs me, i try and find some sort of workaround. *sigh* speaking of which, now that im home from work.... time to uhh.. get back to work.

I have two jobs. One pays me, the other is umm... i dunno.. fixing of pet peeves. :roll:

Just reading about it there are some things that interest me about IV (the list that Ducimus made for instance), and I might buy it if I ever supe up my PC.


But I don't like hearing about all the bugs. If anything when you are doing a franchise there should be LESS bugs with each installment.

I get the sense that someone at UBI looked at their projected profit margin and decided they needed an influx of cash so they released a game that wasn't ready.
(Maybe the thinking that people would do the work themselves to fix everything for free :down: )

That puts me off a bit.


And for what it's worth I saw Das Boot after I started playing SHIII (besides seeing it 20 years prior that is).

When Mike Myers called the History Channel the World War II channel in Wayne's World he wasn't kidding. And most of the shows are about the Nazis. Americans seem obsessed with Germany in WWII (Ha - as I type this an ad just came on PBS for Hitler's Sunken Secret).

the americans are wierd... they hate nazi's and dislike what they have done (and so on) but they actualy look at documentairs of the nazi's and hitler.....:doh:

but anyway....
my opinion on SHIV's subs is... WIERD

Sorry I disagree, I know 3 Canadians (one who was born in Russia) a Greek and a German among our members who play mostly SHIV. The only boring subs in WWII were the Swiss. :arrgh!:

Come on man, I'd love to see and when I get off work maybe dig up some of the SH3 bug lists...though I agree the game was published too early. I can affirm a fair number of those are not bugs just reported...many are due to new users not knowing how sub sims work etc.

As I said Joea, I didn't return it as I am hopefull that the game in the, hopefully near, future will be fixed, to something close to SHIII's 1.04b patch.:yep:
SHIII had nowhere near the bugs found in SHIV, if I had to guess I'd say that they built SHIV on the SHIII 1.0 engine!:-?
I really am quite nervous, since most of the dev team is new, that they can successfuly patch it, I certainly hope so!:cry:

Very deep. :-?


P.S. Not only Americans. :know:

That's right! Admitingly, SH4 was released too early but after patch 1.2 I don't see any major bugs that really really kille the gameplay. There are things in need of fixing, like the bad conversion from metric to imperial, and the defective radar, but both have reasonably easy workarounds: Play with metrics and tweak the radar so it detects both surface and air targets. The dumb AI is something subject to opinions, some people say it is too difficult others too easy....:hmm: But the sad thing overall is how many people are actually joining the rows of those who cry "Bugged!" without ever having noticed some of those bugs while playing themselves:down:

Canadian here, I love SH3 GWX, Atlantic Theatre, but I played that game solid for close to 2 years, still playing GWX, but a change was needed, SH4 is enjoyable and with another patch, more mods, and eventually a super-mod, it will be a
great game:yep:

RDP

i mean the cunning tower of those subs... they are (in a mather of speaking) 1 mile high. the german cunning towers were low.

its wierd... :doh:

Er Did this post make any sense? Learning about history is one way of making sure it doesnt happen again. If anything is wierd its how many people feel akward about playing a german sub commander and killing the brits/americans but then have no problem blowing up japanese merchants as an american sub commander ;P

@ the conning tower
Id have to agree about that, american subs do have a large conning tower but maybe thats actually better? It keeps the body of the sub deeper when they are at periscope depth so its harder to see. Heh I like the S Class boats anyway :)

On Topic:

Silent Hunter 4's Fatigue/crew management system is much better than SH3. I also like its TDC better, but thats just me.

And that is what I will do, less bugs better to play a great super mod that will improve it and the cost of the game and upgrades I need will be cheaper. :smug: :smug: :smug:

mankind doesnt learn from its mistakes... look at all the war that is going on...
a good example. america invades iraq becouse they have nuclyair weapons. did they found some ? NO, what did bush want THEYR FUEl (or just world dommination)
did bush learned from the consentration camps ? yea he learned how to lock the "prissoners" or "terrorists" there and let them suffer.

@ the cunningtowers
but the large cunningtowers are bad if you are surfaced... in the dark you also get spotted faster than a german U-boat...

i gave SHIV another try... im slowly learning all those button's. :yep:
but im still used to SHIII's button's. so its a bit strange now :doh:

Well different environments, which is interesting for me. USN boats were meant to attack submerged (before the war) and preferably by sonar. Didn't work and the conning towers were cut down during the war. US boats started using radar to attack or track on the surface at night.

KM boats were supposed to attack at night on the surface, so low profile. They went to submerged attacks cause the Allies were ahead in radar and had more airpower. Interesting twist huh? :know:

I like both and wish we could drive Japanese, British and Soviet subs too.

yea the big japanese U-boats

how many torpedo's could they carry :hmm:
they were 30m bigger than the german U-boats

I play both alternatively, SH3 (GWX ) and SH4 (RFB + FTT), and i feel good :D

RFB ?
FTT ?

what are those ???? :huh:

Two modpacks for Sh4.

RFB = "real fleet boat" by Berry

FTT = "flavored to Taste" by Dumbass.. i mean Ducimus. I couldnt come up with a better name and i think i might rerelease it under a new name.

RE conning towers, i personally prefer them (after wartime modification to reduce silloutte ) for 3 reasons:

1.) Deeper periscope depth
2.) Lookouts are up higher, and hence, can see farther.
3.) The boat can flood down to where only its radar mast is expost, allowing it to use radar while submerged.


One thing i hate in sh4, is the periscope shears obscure your view when looking aft. Your watchcrew has a better vantage point, but you (the player) don't.