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Enigma 04-11-07 02:52 PM

Ok. I'll start reading from where I started the frikkin thread shall I. :lol:

04-11-07 03:01 PM

I thought this post was about candidates for the highest office in the US refusing to debate on a particular network. Do we really want people who are in contention for that office as president if they refuse to debate on that network because of its perceived slant. Sounds as if the idea of freedom of the press is lost on these candidates. If they can be so arrogant towards the nature of the press what else will they forsake in the name of opinion.

I haven't even brought up the great large finger the candidates are giving the Congressional Black Caucus (the other sponser). If this isn't a big *******k Y*u to the leaders of the black community I don't know what is.

Barkhorn1x 04-11-07 03:02 PM

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And you'd be right on that point if it were the 80s and Saddam were attacking that dangerous Iranian regime. You forget too easily that Saddam was given most of the weapons used in the Gulf Wars against the US by the US for war against Iran.
Get your facts straight before you make these grand pronouncements:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_sa...Iraq_1973-1990

Who armed Iraq - in order:
- the SU/WP
- France
- China

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Don't forget the handshake.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...m_rumsfeld.jpg
OK, how about?

http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USA/...trategy-91.jpg

Context is important - that is something you seem to miss.

August 04-11-07 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigma
Ok. I'll start reading from where I started the frikkin thread shall I. :lol:

That would probably be a good idea. ;)

Enigma 04-11-07 03:18 PM

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I thought this post was about candidates for the highest office in the US refusing to debate on a particular network. Do we really want people who are in contention for that office as president if they refuse to debate on that network because of its perceived slant. Sounds as if the idea of freedom of the press is lost on these candidates. If they can be so arrogant towards the nature of the press what else will they forsake in the name of opinion.
So I can assume you are also reffering to Giuliani, McCain, Brownback, and Huckabee, who were invited, but did not attend the townhall sponsored by Lefty Moveon.org yesterday? Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Edwards, Bill Richardson, Joe Biden, Chris Dodd and Dennis Kucinich all showed....:hmm:

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I haven't even brought up the great large finger the candidates are giving the Congressional Black Caucus (the other sponser). If this isn't a big *******k Y*u to the leaders of the black community I don't know what is.
Nonsense. They all feel that a leading black institution was turning its back on its constituents by partnering with Fox News. Obama said so himself.

04-11-07 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigma
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I thought this post was about candidates for the highest office in the US refusing to debate on a particular network. Do we really want people who are in contention for that office as president if they refuse to debate on that network because of its perceived slant. Sounds as if the idea of freedom of the press is lost on these candidates. If they can be so arrogant towards the nature of the press what else will they forsake in the name of opinion.
So I can assume you are also reffering to Giuliani, McCain, Brownback, and Huckabee, who were invited, but did not attend the townhall sponsored by Lefty Moveon.org yesterday? Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Edwards, Bill Richardson, Joe Biden, Chris Dodd and Dennis Kucinich all showed....:hmm:

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I haven't even brought up the great large finger the candidates are giving the Congressional Black Caucus (the other sponser). If this isn't a big *******k Y*u to the leaders of the black community I don't know what is.
Nonsense. They all feel that a leading black institution was turning its back on its constituents by partnering with Fox News. Obama said so himself.

Townhalls are little more than beauty pagents. Nationally televised debates on the issues are a different story all together. What are these people afraid of?

By turning their backs, you mean challenging blacks to give up their victim status?

Enigma 04-11-07 03:32 PM

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Townhalls are little more than beauty pagents. Nationally televised debates on the issues are a different story all together. What are these people afraid of?
Well, thats not much of an argument. It's really just your opinion that it was a "beauty pagent". It was very well attended, by everyone except Republican candidates. They didnt show. What are these people afraid of?

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By turning their backs, you mean challenging blacks to give up their victim status?
....What?

04-11-07 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigma
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Townhalls are little more than beauty pagents. Nationally televised debates on the issues are a different story all together. What are these people afraid of?
Well, thats not much of an argument. It's really just your opinion that it was a "beauty pagent". It was very well attended, by everyone except Republican candidates. They didnt show. What are these people afraid of?

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By turning their backs, you mean challenging blacks to give up their victim status?
....What?

Beauty pagent. If you don't understand it I'm sure there is a wiki for it.

people like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson perpetuate the victimhood which is being black in America. Unfortunately, criminal illegal imiagrants are quickly surpassing them. You, by asking are also perpetuating their victimhood. Let these people standup and become part of the dream.

Enigma 04-11-07 03:39 PM

Oh, and it was 1 issue debate/discussion. Topic: Iraq. Call me crazy, but im pretty sure thats a hot button issue for voters these days.
But, I guess it answers my "what are they afraid of?" question.

Enigma 04-11-07 03:42 PM

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Beauty pagent. If you don't understand it I'm sure there is a wiki for it.
Not sure why I gave you the impression that I didnt understand what a beauty pagent is.

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people like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson perpetuate the victimhood which is being black in America. Unfortunately, criminal illegal imiagrants are quickly surpassing them. You, by asking are also perpetuating their victimhood. Let these people standup and become part of the dream.
Whos stopping them? And what, in gods name does this have to do with the Dems turning down Fox!? They turned it down based on it being FOx as a co sponsor. It's cute to try to spin it so that the Dems are giving Black America the "finger" as you put it, but it's also party line spin and BS. And frankly, i think you know it.

Enigma 04-11-07 03:45 PM

....I'd also add that perhaps you are the only one that belives this move slighted the black population. After all, when some 879 year old radio idiot calls a collegic basketball team "nappy headed ho's", its 3 days worth of news stories. You think the press decided to just keep a lid on the fact that the Dems turn their backs and give the finger to black america? :lol:

04-11-07 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigma
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Beauty pagent. If you don't understand it I'm sure there is a wiki for it.
Not sure why I gave you the impression that I didnt understand what a beauty pagent is.

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people like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson perpetuate the victimhood which is being black in America. Unfortunately, criminal illegal imiagrants are quickly surpassing them. You, by asking are also perpetuating their victimhood. Let these people standup and become part of the dream.
Whos stopping them? And what, in gods name does this have to do with the Dems turning down Fox!? They turned it down based on it being FOx as a co sponsor. It's cute to try to spin it so that the Dems are giving Black America the "finger" as you put it, but it's also party line spin and BS. And frankly, i think you know it.

Have a sip of your KoolAid.

Enigma 04-11-07 03:51 PM

Hehe...I always hit this wall with you.

Nice response. Come back when you have an argument.

have a nice day. :sunny:

04-11-07 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigma
....I'd also add that perhaps you are the only one that belives this move slighted the black population. After all, when some 879 year old radio idiot calls a collegic basketball team "nappy headed ho's", its 3 days worth of news stories. You think the press decided to just keep a lid on the fact that the Dems turn their backs and give the finger to black america? :lol:

Imus is one of yours my friend. Also the press hasn't caught up with me yet. Also they are so PC that they would never suggest that the Dems are anti-black in their behavior when they need them so much to win an election.

Enigma 04-11-07 03:52 PM

"One of yours". One of mine! Ha!


...and I drink the Kool aid, eh? :lol:

04-11-07 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigma
"One of yours". One of mine! Ha!


...and I drink the Kool aid, eh? :lol:

He's a socialist/liberal and you know it. Eating your own is what you folks do.

The Avon Lady 04-11-07 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigma
...and I drink the Kool aid, eh? :lol:

At the rate things are going here, I'm suprised the 2 of you aren't offering one another a nice Hawaiian Punch.

http://www.verypink.com/Images/jingles2/hawaiian.jpg

04-11-07 04:02 PM

Back on topic. The candidates have every right to not attend any debate they wish. Face time is, however, what makes or breaks their candidacy. Early on, in the primary season, these folks only want the party to nominate them. They will pander to the party faithful and no one else. September of '08 will be the time for moving towards the center.

Enigma 04-11-07 04:04 PM

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He's a socialist/liberal and you know it. Eating your own is what you folks do.
It's comments like that that really set you apart, old friend.

Enigma 04-11-07 04:08 PM

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Back on topic. The candidates have every right to not attend any debate they wish. Face time is, however, what makes or breaks their candidacy. Early on, in the primary season, these folks only want the party to nominate them. They will pander to the party faithful and no one else. September of '08 will be the time for moving towards the center.
I agree %100.

It just seems like it's bad if Democrats do it, and acceptable for Republicans?
Kind of along the smae lines as the Syria visit. Dems = bad. Repubs = No comment, apparently.


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