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java`s revenge 04-13-07 05:47 PM

The two paintings were photographed at the dutch navy museam at Den Helder.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...g/IMG_1318.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...g/IMG_1316.jpg

java`s revenge 04-13-07 05:48 PM

I hope you like these photo`s. Maybe i get a warning that i use
too big photo`s but i am so anger to posts these.

L3TUC3 04-13-07 05:57 PM

Haha, I have a widescreen monitor so you won't hear me complain. I've gone and saved them all for future reference.

Thanks a lot for the pictures. I was actually looking for those paintings you posted!


Edit:
Radio Oranje is coming along nicely. I have about 14 minutes of music and cabaret along with the original announcements.

1. Announcement "Hier is Radio Oranje"
2. "Op de Grebbeberg" by Jaques v. Tol and Gerald Plato. A song musing the soldiers that fell in the defence of Holland. Doubt it was played on the radio, but I'm a little short on stuff.
3. "De watergeus vaart!" by Jetty Pearl, I think it was an in house production. It has a catchy tune. It makes a reference to being on a saturday though, that's too bad but can't be helped for now.
4. "Göbbels liegt (?)" performer unknown, another in house performer I think.
5. "De NSB en de V" yet another in house. It's pretty funny stuff.

Then it loops back to 1.

If anyone knows musicians and other things Radio Nederland/Oranje used to broadcast and where to find them on the web, please let me know! I'm afraid I don't know a whole lot about the music being played back then.

java`s revenge 04-14-07 05:39 AM

Sssst het zijn Nederlanders!!

Here is the tune...

http://www.helderse.net/indexx2.php


Dit is echt een moeilijke, zal zoeken...

Morts 04-14-07 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeFF
I like the story about this Dutch minesweeper:

"HNMS Abraham Crijnssen


The Crijnssen gathered fame during the Second World War, because of her spectacular escape from Surabaya to Australia in March 1942. Covered with treebranches, the minesweeper crossed the Japanese naval lines camouflaged as a tropical island."

:rotfl:

http://www.uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/2849.html

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

java`s revenge 04-14-07 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L3TUC3
Haha, I have a widescreen monitor so you won't hear me complain. I've gone and saved them all for future reference.

Thanks a lot for the pictures. I was actually looking for those paintings you posted!


Edit:
Radio Oranje is coming along nicely. I have about 14 minutes of music and cabaret along with the original announcements.

1. Announcement "Hier is Radio Oranje"
2. "Op de Grebbeberg" by Jaques v. Tol and Gerald Plato. A song musing the soldiers that fell in the defence of Holland. Doubt it was played on the radio, but I'm a little short on stuff.
3. "De watergeus vaart!" performer unknown, I think it was an in house production. It has a catchy tune. It makes a reference to being on a saturday though, that's too bad but can't be helped for now.
4. "Göbbels liegt (?)" performer unknown, another in house performer I think.
5. "De NSB en de V" yet another in house. It's pretty funny stuff.

Then it loops back to 1.

If anyone knows musicians and other things Radio Nederland/Oranje used to broadcast and where to find them on the web, please let me know! I'm afraid I don't know a whole lot about the music being played back then.

He Nederlander,
I have much more, i can post them.....but over 2 weeks we are moving
to another house. So i will be about 6 weeks offline.

L3TUC3 04-14-07 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by java`s revenge
Quote:

Originally Posted by L3TUC3
Haha, I have a widescreen monitor so you won't hear me complain. I've gone and saved them all for future reference.

Thanks a lot for the pictures. I was actually looking for those paintings you posted!


Edit:
Radio Oranje is coming along nicely. I have about 14 minutes of music and cabaret along with the original announcements.

1. Announcement "Hier is Radio Oranje"
2. "Op de Grebbeberg" by Jaques v. Tol and Gerald Plato. A song musing the soldiers that fell in the defence of Holland. Doubt it was played on the radio, but I'm a little short on stuff.
3. "De watergeus vaart!" performer unknown, I think it was an in house production. It has a catchy tune. It makes a reference to being on a saturday though, that's too bad but can't be helped for now.
4. "Göbbels liegt (?)" performer unknown, another in house performer I think.
5. "De NSB en de V" yet another in house. It's pretty funny stuff.

Then it loops back to 1.

If anyone knows musicians and other things Radio Nederland/Oranje used to broadcast and where to find them on the web, please let me know! I'm afraid I don't know a whole lot about the music being played back then.

He Nederlander,
I have much more, i can post them.....but over 2 weeks we are moving
to another house. So i will be about 6 weeks offline.

I'm not in a hurry, so take your time.

LukeFF 04-14-07 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by java`s revenge

Gelderland is in IL-2 Sturmovik as the Niobe flak cruiser, as it was known after the Germans captured it during the invasion of Holland.

http://rafiger.de/Homepage/Artgaller...ic02/Niobe.jpg

L3TUC3 04-14-07 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeFF
Quote:

Originally Posted by java`s revenge
The Gelderland,

Gelderland is in IL-2 Sturmovik as the Niobe flak cruiser, as it was known after the Germans captured it during the invasion of Holland.

Thanks for that info. I won't add the Gelderland to the mod because I'm focussing more on the Pacific and the Indies. I guess I should change the mod name and clarify the focus premise to represent that.

Edit:
Ok, some more stuff for the to-do list. After some close examination and fiddling with the .eqp files, it seems that UBI doesn't have all it's assets done. Destroyers with depth charges have Japanese sailors manning them, even if the ship is allied. Same thing with some of the guns. When I have the time I'll try to change some of the Jap skins and make some Dutch sailors (Jantjes). Also, thanks to bigbobwooly (thanks for that link man!) I've managed to clone an s18 and use it for a KVIII class placeholder. The only thing that I haven't managed to get a placeholder for is a plane, but I'm sure those'll come along soon enough.

I'll also make the mod JSGME compatible as per request.

java`s revenge 04-15-07 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LukeFF
Quote:

Originally Posted by java`s revenge
The Gelderland,

Gelderland is in IL-2 Sturmovik as the Niobe flak cruiser, as it was known after the Germans captured it during the invasion of Holland.

http://rafiger.de/Homepage/Artgaller...ic02/Niobe.jpg

That`s correctly said!!!

OddjobXL 04-15-07 11:49 AM

They also flew Brewster Buffaloes. Not sure if that's in the OOB for SH4 as I haven't checked yet. But the first campaign I did in Il-2: 1946 (admittedly picked at random) was flying for the KNIL from Sumatra in a Buffalo. Did a quick look and found this article too:

http://www.warbirdforum.com/dutch.htm

L3TUC3 04-15-07 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OddjobXL
They also flew Brewster Buffaloes. Not sure if that's in the OOB for SH4 as I haven't checked yet. But the first campaign I did in Il-2: 1946 (admittedly picked at random) was flying for the KNIL from Sumatra in a Buffalo. Did a quick look and found this article too:

http://www.warbirdforum.com/dutch.htm

The Dutch had nothing of interest in the roster. Couple of fishingboats and a trawler.

I have seen no indication of anything of interest for this mod being included by UBI at a later date save for the Catalina (the skin texture is in there somewhere). Thanks for the heads up on the Buffaloes, those indeed flew around the Indies.

I'm going to Holland after my semester here is done and I'm going to visit the Navy museum and the KNIL veterans home to see if I can dig up some neat stuff. I should be able to get some technical drawings of the ships at least.

java`s revenge 04-16-07 11:58 AM

Here you can find every detail.

http://www.netherlandsnavy.nl/

L3TUC3 04-17-07 12:05 AM

Peewee noticed that Java is erroneously spelled Jawa in the game. I've hacked up a quick fix for him and others interested until I'm finished with v0.3. This fix will be included with v0.3.

Here's the deal:

Code:

Javafix

This little mod fixes the naming error made by UBIsoft and renames Jawa Sea and Jawa to their proper names Java Sea and Java on the world map.

Files modified:
Campaign_NMS.mis

Files Added:
I_Java.dds
N_JavaSea.dds

Install notes JSGME:

Extract the Javafix to the mods folder and enable the mod.

Install notes non-JSGME:

Extract the Data folder in the Javafix folder to your Silent Hunter 4 folder.

Alternatively in case this mod is somehow incompatible with another, follow these steps:

1. Extract the I_Java.dds and N_JavaSea.dds to the Data\Terrain\Locationsmap folders.
2. Open data\Campaigns\Campaign\Campaign_NMS.mis with a text editor such as notepad or wordpad.
3. Replace I_Jawa.dds with I_Java.dds in Maplocation 47
4. Replace N_JawaSea.dds with N_JavaSea.dds in Maplocation 60


Have fun!

-L3TUC3

Download the fix here.

java`s revenge 04-17-07 11:18 AM

Jawa is correct. It`s an old name for Java.

L3TUC3 04-17-07 06:47 PM

So far 0.2 seems to be compatible with the 1.2 patch. Please post if you find anything broken.

A little update: It turns out that the US fighter is in fact a Buffalo Brewster, the very same one the KNIL Air Corps flew. I'm modifying the texture on it right now to have the right camouflage and markings. I should finish it tonight. It's not very pretty though, but a start.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...uffaloB339.jpg

Submerging Dutchman 04-19-07 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OddjobXL
I'm going to Holland after my semester here is done and I'm going to visit the Navy museum and the KNIL veterans home to see if I can dig up some neat stuff. I should be able to get some technical drawings of the ships at least.

Be sure to contact me at the Navy Museum (www.marinemuseum.nl) when you are planning your visit. I'm sure I can provide you with lots of information regarding Dutch ships and subs.

Great job on trying to get the Dutch sailors the attention they deserve. :up:

Mind you, apart from the K- and O-boats, the Dutch used one British T-class sub during WWII. HNlMS Zwaardvisch (ex-HMS Talent) sunk U-168 off the north coast of Java on 6 October 1944. I suppose it will be easier to find a T-class sub on SHIII than a K- or O-boat.

Best regards, Leon Homburg.

L3TUC3 04-19-07 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Submerging Dutchman
Quote:

Originally Posted by OddjobXL
I'm going to Holland after my semester here is done and I'm going to visit the Navy museum and the KNIL veterans home to see if I can dig up some neat stuff. I should be able to get some technical drawings of the ships at least.

Be sure to contact me at the Navy Museum (www.marinemuseum.nl) when you are planning your visit. I'm sure I can provide you with lots of information regarding Dutch ships and subs.

Great job on trying to get the Dutch sailors the attention they deserve. :up:

Mind you, apart from the K- and O-boats, the Dutch used one British T-class sub during WWII. HNlMS Zwaardvisch (ex-HMS Talent) sunk U-168 off the north coast of Java on 6 October 1944. I suppose it will be easier to find a T-class sub on SHIII than a K- or O-boat.

Best regards, Leon Homburg.

Thanks for the reply and invitation. I'll be sure to send a notice your way when I've planned my trip. Things are a little hectic right now finishing up my semester, but should all be good to go in a week or so.

tater 04-19-07 08:15 PM

For Duch aircraft skins, look here: http://www.1java.org/index.php

These guys do a lot for Il-2 KNIL stuff (there was even a CW-21 done for Il-2, dunno if we'll ever see it though).

tater

GerritJ9 05-29-07 07:20 AM

Re: Tromp/Heemskerck etc.
 
"Tromp" was completed in 1938, not 1940; "Jacob van Heemskerck" escaped to Britain in an incomplete condition in May 1940 and was completed there. Since fire control equipment was not available she was completed with ten 4-inch AA guns as main armament. "Tromp" took part in the Battle of Badoeng Strait and received damage which necessitated her repair in Australia, so she was the only major Dutch warship to survive the NEI campaign. "Heemskerck" was in the Indian Ocean and was ordered to proceed to Colombo instead when Java's fall became imminent.
The "Admiralen" class destroyers were developments of the British "Ambuscade" (as were all British destroyers of the "A" to "I" class so perhaps it is possible to modify an early war British destroyer model from SH3? They carried six torpedo tubes rather than eight, and differed in AA armament. The first group of four had two 75mm AA guns, the second four had two twin 40mm AA mounts.
"Van Galen (II)" and "Tjerk Hiddesz" were Royal Navy "N" class so they could be transferred from SH3 without any mods (use "J" class destroyer)- assuming, of course, that that would be (a) workable and (b) legal.


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