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CptSimFreak 02-11-07 03:21 PM

And now some water action.

http://x0b.xanga.com/89f8327a4034910.../w75032156.jpg
In the morning

http://x33.xanga.com/895d0b273423110.../w75032161.jpg
Day
http://x65.xanga.com/4cb8347a4074810.../w75032021.jpg
Evening.

nikimcbee 02-11-07 03:35 PM

Those are beautiful dacha photos. Where were they taken? My "ex" 's had a dacha in Peredelkino, her grandma worked for Pasternak. I'll scan my 2 photos of there. When we were out walking there, that was the place I asked her to marry me. So I love dachas! Fond memories!:cry:

DanCanovas 02-11-07 04:19 PM

stunning!

Chaotic42 02-11-07 04:27 PM

Looks delicious! I'll be over in a minute for dinner...

I looked up apartments in St. Petersburg. A small one bedroom apartment was 800 Euros/month. I guess that's not bad for a large city, but you'd have to be making 30,000 Euros/year to live at a level that most Americans would call comfortable. Me, anyway.

DanCanovas 02-11-07 05:01 PM

i dont think 800 Euros a month is particularly cheap for a 1 bedroom flat. certainly a lot more than I expected for Russia

tycho102 02-11-07 05:38 PM

Wow. There's some fairly hardcore perspectives in this thread.

@CCIP: I agree with you on Putin and "democracy". I know you can't just heave a load of voting into a place and expect everything to be perfect. Look at China -- there was a time when I thought Tiennamen was horrible, but now that I'm older and looking at California, I don't blame the Communists for doing it (rolling in the tanks). Russia has significant issues with crime, aged population, infrastructure, border security. If there is to be a "middle class" in Russia, it's going to be the young generation that grows up to fill it. But my God, it's been what, 15 years since that failed coup against Gorby?

Post-war Japan, which is about how I view current Russia, was still having a rough time in 1955. Hell, it wasn't until the mid 70's until their economy broke even from the war reparations. All the oldies died in the war from physical hardship, which is some that....pragmatically.....Russia does not have the benefit of. What is it, like 20% of their population is over 60? It's about 15% for America (our mexican population brings that down).

Anyway, nice pictures.

Dan D 02-11-07 07:17 PM

Great pics and stories, and i am hoping for more to come.
What I was always wondering about, is the guys here who are living in the UK and having Russian roots. Ethnic Russians living in the US or Canada do not surprise me, because those are the classic immigration countries. We also have a bunch of Russian speaking folks here in Germany, who are Ethnic Germans and thus can apply for a German passport anytime, like e.g. so-called Wolga-Germans who once moved to Russia at times of Catharine the Great. How comes that people with Russian roots move to the UK?
Is it familiy ties or is is because the UK is probably also a classic immigration country within Europe or whatever reason it is?
IF you don't mind, I would like to hear more about family backgrounds.

Part of my family were French Hugenots who settled in Prussia; so much for my family background.

CCIP 02-11-07 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan D
What I was always wondering about, is the guys here who are living in the UK and having Russian roots. Ethnic Russians living in the US or Canada do not surprise me, because those are the classic immigration countries. We also have a bunch of Russian speaking folks here in Germany, who are Ethnic Germans and thus can apply for a German passport anytime, like e.g. so-called Wolga-Germans who once moved to Russia at times of Catharine the Great. How comes that people with Russian roots move to the UK?
Is it familiy ties or is is because the UK is probably also a classic immigration country within Europe or whatever reason it is?
IF you don't mind, I would like to hear more about family backgrounds.

I'm not entirely sure, but Russians aren't really that selective as far as immigration, as long as it's West (except perhaps Israel). If you mean new immigrants - for a period in the 90's, it was really wherever you could go. I have friends' relatives in the UK - a Russian girl who married a Brit.
Then there are people with old Russian roots, most likely descendants of Russian nobility who escaped into Europe during the revolution.

Backgrounds - interesting you bring this up. I find it ironic how hard it is to figure out just what is an ethnic Russian (my general conclusion is that there's no such thing).

My own background is about 1/4 Novgorod Russian, a small proportion of 'other' (western) Russian and Ukranian, 1/4 German/Danish/Swedish (nobility), 1/4 Karel (essentially Finnish), and then about 8% of everything else including Tartar, Jewish, Turkish, Gypsy and other backgrounds.

I'm rather proud of my mix to be honest, which illustrates just how ironic many ethnic conflicts and xenophobias are.

CptSimFreak 02-11-07 09:15 PM

nikimcbee, first pic is near St Petersburg. About 60km. Second is around 200km.


http://xf6.xanga.com/69cd505531d3210.../w75031598.jpg
Peter The Great made this man-made river so that ships could travel when there was storm on lake Ladoga.

http://x3e.xanga.com/ae4d225572d3310.../w75031606.jpg
This is more modern. Made with same reasoning as picture before.

http://x11.xanga.com/ee9d30557243010.../w75031874.jpg
Usually one can find many fresh products in near store. Goat's milk is quite good.

http://x5c.xanga.com/d6ad36556273010.../w75031883.jpg

Reminder of WW2....
(Here near a village Lipki on 12 Jan 43 during breakthrough of blockade of Leningrad, commander rota 533 CP 128CD of Volhovsk front, comsomole senior Lt Yakov Ivanovich Bogdan closed with own body enemy's hardened position)
http://xd2.xanga.com/ffdd005b1443110.../w75031581.jpg

This one is of un-named soldier. Someone placed helmet with hole on grave.
http://xb9.xanga.com/cacd01272923110.../w75031996.jpg
Here's a foxhole. Dill a little and you can find many things.
http://x5a.xanga.com/9aa83b754027810.../w75032170.jpg
This maybe a command center. Or hiding spot for mortar team, or etc.

http://x59.xanga.com/fc7d3b550553010.../w75031965.jpg
Around this swamplands, my mother's brother found a tank.

http://x37.xanga.com/94983075d9c3810.../w75031943.jpg

http://xde.xanga.com/aadd0b212663110.../w75031912.jpg

Some cranberries.
http://x2d.xanga.com/64e83271d9d0910.../w75031900.jpg
and a mushroom. Many people go during end of summer to gather mushrooms in local forests. It was one of my favorite things to do. Before family would wake up, I would check my mushroom spots so that they could eat mushrooms for breakfast (I couldnt stand eating them). The other one was gathering WW2 relics. During my last trip to this area, without even looking for anything, I found 3 rusted Mauser shells. When I was little, I found mortar rounds, grenades, rifle, bullets and such around my datchya.

(My background: I have no idea. I think I have some Fin in me, Ukrainian, some aristocrat and Russian....whatever that is.) (I think being Russian is a state of mind, not genetics)

DanCanovas 02-12-07 02:40 AM

real good pics! thanks

CCIP 02-17-07 04:17 AM

Great nature pics!

I have a few of my own, but I'm still catching up.

Meanwhile, I just found a few pics from back in the USSR that might be relevant -

My dad in the Soviet Army during the 1970s (Kola Peninsula; he was a radio operator):

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...o/dadarmy2.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...o/dadarmy1.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...o/dadarmy3.jpg

Some scary Cold War enemies there, eh? ;)

One funny thing about my dad: he got a perfect duty for himself when he became a radio operator. What did he mostly do during his shifts you ask?
He listened to BBC and other western radio, enjoying the 'banned' rock music from the west and news in English. Never even got caught!:p After ending his military service, he became a musician and played in 'underground' rock bands of the late Soviet era.

Abraham 02-17-07 05:02 AM

Russian Federation vs Soviet Union
 
Thanks all participants for interesting thread with great pics!
The personal comments with some of the pics makes them even more special.
:up:

CptSimFreak 02-17-07 01:26 PM

Lets continue with St Petersburg tour; churches.

http://x83.xanga.com/a7cd33601823110.../w76029127.jpg

Unfortunately this church was closed that day so I couldn't take pictures from inside. Instead, there's a mother of all fences.
http://xf0.xanga.com/211836223011810.../w76029141.jpg

http://x2b.xanga.com/3c7d30603053110.../w76029166.jpg
This one we can see not only in-and-out, but on top as well. :D
http://xb0.xanga.com/ed9d04723363110.../w76029173.jpg

From the top.

http://x20.xanga.com/f4ad22603073010.../w76029185.jpg

and inside.

http://x3f.xanga.com/31c83720300b810.../w76029194.jpg

Sorry from crappy angle, church is not crooked; My hands are.

http://x16.xanga.com/087d31733273010.../w76029153.jpg

Here's an inside of a different church. Look! there is a bread line! :rotfl:

http://x9c.xanga.com/413801213002910.../w76029163.jpg

CCIP 02-17-07 01:47 PM

Interesting fact:
Some of the mosaics you see here were created by my great-great-grandfather, a remarkable artist in his own right.

Ironically, he had taught in the Royal Academy in Tsarskoye Selo (now Pushkin) and had several of his works bought by the Tsar's family themselves for massive amounts of money - money virtually all of which he later donated to the Bolshevik party, of which he was a dedicated and fairly high-ranking member.

CptSimFreak 02-17-07 01:52 PM

And following CCCP lead, here some of my personal photos.

http://x08.xanga.com/5f0a3b5a7063257.../w38593114.jpg
This is my great-grandfather (right). He served in calvary. After WW2, he was a comander of tank(s) in Berlin. (no pics of that)

http://x79.xanga.com/77da375a7913257.../w38593099.jpg

And here's grandfather. A captan of a ship. He did Land-Lease route.
http://x2f.xanga.com/fc680b2bc666910.../w76034169.jpg
Here's an image some might fine interesting. That's one frozen ship.

http://x55.xanga.com/da283425c666810.../w76034173.jpg

My father. He was playing on the ship behind him.

CptSimFreak 02-24-07 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP
Interesting fact:
Some of the mosaics you see here were created by my great-great-grandfather, a remarkable artist in his own right.

Ironically, he had taught in the Royal Academy in Tsarskoye Selo (now Pushkin) and had several of his works bought by the Tsar's family themselves for massive amounts of money - money virtually all of which he later donated to the Bolshevik party, of which he was a dedicated and fairly high-ranking member.

I remember reading about it....I'm not sure if it was about your family. Was he lead designer?

XabbaRus 02-24-07 04:43 AM

Those are lovely pictures, especially the ones of the dacha land. It reminds me of my wife's parent's place near Moscow.

Seeing those pictures makes me want to go back. Funny thing is, although my life in the UK is probably safer and more stable those pictures stir up many emotions in me. Is it strange that although I am not Russian I consider in many ways Russia to be my home, or at least a second home, warts and all.

Just trying to figure out what I could do to get back and earn similar money to what I am doing right now.

CptSimFreak 03-25-07 08:10 PM

Bump... :cool:

CptSimFreak 06-13-07 06:17 PM

I'm use this thead to post pictures from Russia...

Here are some pictures I took of this Fort. It was a stronghold that managed to hold off Germans and provide cover for "Road of Live" during Leningrad siege.(Hence the beat up look of it)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shlisselburg

Google Maps

http://xb0.xanga.com/be3d95235663212.../w93457303.jpg


The only way to get to Fort, other than to swim, is to take a 10 minute ride on a boat.

http://x4f.xanga.com/73cd82236633212.../w93457327.jpg
High on the roof restoration is in progress: fresh paint.

http://xea.xanga.com/181d655a1053312.../w93457350.jpg

Highly secured entrance to the Fort.

http://x07.xanga.com/75ad82251003212.../w93457391.jpg
Direction sign for the lost travelers :D
http://x39.xanga.com/f04d86251143512.../w93457443.jpg

Couple 45s mm(?) displayed for public. They were used to hold off fluffy Germans.


http://xce.xanga.com/822d87237723512.../w93457417.jpg
Inside that structure, a memorial stands
http://x31.xanga.com/cfcd912411d3212.../w93457465.jpg

http://x96.xanga.com/731d9b234953212.../w93457489.jpg

http://xa7.xanga.com/d55d86261373512.../w93457522.jpg

http://x84.xanga.com/a46c1722c153412.../w93463986.jpg

This is an old style holding cell that used to hold family members of Tsar.

CptSimFreak 06-13-07 06:19 PM

http://x97.xanga.com/8dbc05231413712.../w93457779.jpg

During Tsar times and after, this Fort was used as prison. Here's a uniform of pre-1900 guards.
http://x1e.xanga.com/9e8d83251303512.../w93457526.jpg
http://x1e.xanga.com/f43d6527c453312.../w93463962.jpg
This is a new-style prison structure. It was used to hold death sentenced people who fought vs tsar regime.

http://x8a.xanga.com/188c0a2b1843712.../w93457794.jpg

Ruins; no one may enter


http://xa9.xanga.com/2cec15231573412.../w93457805.jpg

Second floor of the outer wall.


http://xf5.xanga.com/316c02233533412.../w93457819.jpg

Wall is over two meters deep. (That's me)


http://x02.xanga.com/b3dd9126c443212.../w93463972.jpg

http://x9b.xanga.com/2b8d912bc413212.../w93464002.jpg

Translation: In memory of peace between Novgorod and Sweden. Year 1323

http://xc7.xanga.com/a9fc052143c3712.../w93466095.jpg


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