What is wrong with the colours?

Bradclark1 showed us an impressive list with a colourful and poetic touch.
But some members are bashing it.
It looks like a child's posture to make fun of it. :hmm::hmm::hmm:

Grow up people!
Bradclark1 made a clear statement when he wrote:

Wrong. I do not hate them.
The subject it is how they are carry out, and, the thread's title: Are Income Taxes illegal?

About of """what do you want or expect us Americans to do about it?"""

:o:o:o Well, this kind of question is unfortunately common.
You are waiting for the answer and you do not think over to generate it yourself.

I am not american born, and it is extremely hard to understand why americans do this question.
Perhaps it is their background education (i am not sure), but it seems that to accept ideas, commands, regulations, etc, without to filter them through a critic mind is the norm. :hmm::hmm::hmm:

Ok, VON_CAPO, let me see if I understand this.

You come to this Country for what ever reason (I don't care) and you want to gripe about how our taxes could be illegal (or at best, unjust) and you can't give us a solution:rotfl: . Your response to me and the rest of us is to figure it out on our own?. After showing us all this propaganda garbage.

Here's a quote from you I'll respond to:

"What is wrong with the colours?

Bradclark1 showed us an impressive list with a colourful and poetic touch.
But some members are bashing it.
It looks like a child's posture to make fun of it."

At NO time did anyone complain about the use of color, only commented on the over use of color. I too thought the same thing. It was a comment NOT a complaint. Your reply was a complaint as well as mine now.

I would like to say GO BACK HOME but that would be rude, so I won't.

What I will say is that you waisted your time on all this research when you should have spent more time learning English well enough to sound educated in the topic.

For the record, I was NOT looking for an answer so I could follow you in this pointless pursuit. My point was that not once did you ever offer a suggestion to better the Tax system or to do something about changing it. I wanted to know where you were going with this garbage.

Your answer had confirmed my statement at post #42. :yep::yep::yep:

I am reading only derogatory comments, but, where are your fundaments?

Sorry, but, how old are you??? :hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm:

"I am reading only derogatory comments, but, where are your fundaments?"

So, instead of answering my question you deside to reverse it back on to me? Then you have the nerve to ask my age. Not that it's your business but I have been a proud US citazin for 40 Years, and you?

Now for your question about my "fundament" (again you are avoiding the question with re-direct), with your poor English I can only hope you are using it as discribed in #1 below and not #2. As for my answer, I thought it is very clear where I stand. You have not.

In POST 42, you basically called us that do not agree with you ignorant but avoided the question.

Your original question was "Are Income Taxes illegal?"
The answer is NO. Are there problems with them, YES. Now, you have your answer. SO WHAT.

fundament - Noun

1. fundament - the fundamental assumptions from which something is begun or developed or calculated or explained; "the whole argument rested on a basis of conjecture"

-cornerstone, groundwork, basis, foundation, base

-explanation - thought that makes something comprehensible

-meat and potatoes - the fundamental part; "successful negotiation is the meat and potatoes of arbitration"

-supposal, supposition, assumption - a hypothesis that is taken for granted; "any society is built upon certain assumptions"


2. fundament - the fleshy part of the human body that you sit on; "he deserves a good kick in the butt"; "are you going to sit on your fanny and do nothing?"

-arse, ass, behind, buns, buttocks, derriere, fanny, hind end, hindquarters, keister, nates, posterior, prat, rear end, tooshie, tush, seat, backside, bottom, butt, stern, rump, tail end, tail, can, bum, rear

-body part - any part of an organism such as an organ or extremity

-torso, trunk, body - the body excluding the head and neck and limbs; "they moved their arms and legs and bodies"


3. fundament - lowest support of a structure; "it was built on a base of solid rock"; "he stood at the foot of the tower"

-understructure, groundwork, substructure, base, foundation, foot

-bed - a foundation of earth or rock supporting a road or railroad track; "the track bed had washed away"

-raft foundation - a foundation (usually on soft ground) consisting of an extended layer of reinforced concrete

-structure, construction - a thing constructed; a complex construction or entity; "the structure consisted of a series of arches"; "she wore her hair in an amazing construction of whirls and ribbons"

-support - supporting structure that holds up or provides a foundation; "the statue stood on a marble support"
Source:http://www.thefreedictionary.com/fundaments

Guys, please lets keep the discussion on a less childish level. Thanks!

Ok! I'll answer the question then!

No income taxes are not illegal nor unconstitutional because of the 16th amendment. Yes, it would become illegal and unconstitutional if you removed this amendment.

Some arguments against the amendment, the ratification, its validity, are good and may lead to its eventual downfall. But its important to separate the crap, the trash and the sensationalist garbage from them if we are to present a solid and sincere case against it. Convincing, inciting or persuading people not to pay taxes is irresponsible. Useless rebellions that would only lead to arrests and to losses that could be as great or greater than the taxes themselves. Instead, make sure the cultural foundation is solid, the tradition background is strong, then get enough congressmen willing to take the amendment down in the House & Senate. The history of the ratification of the 16th amendment itself shows what happens when the arguments used are merely opportunistic and limited to the sphere of the political electoral battle, it doesn't work.

Why do you think we should rehash the same flawed arguments over and over again every time somebody like you comes to our country?

After all:
You don't like our tax structure.
You don't like our police.
You don't like our religions.

So why did you even come here von Capo?

For the same reason that everyone comes here and then some....to utilize the freedoms that are given and complain about the 'harsh' conditions he lives in.

Wow!!! :D

The religious right wing activists are gathering again. :p:p:p

Actually, you could get an easy scholarship being English:

Official: What is your purpose in the United States? Business or Pleasure?
Me: I'm English.
Official: Oh, I see, here, take my wallet. And a first class room.
Me: Thanks!
Official: No problem!

:p

I think income taxes should only be in place if the payer knows EXACTLY what the money is spent on.

How about answering the question and stop with the backhanded insults?

Trolling is bad, m´kay?

Is there still anything substantial you guys want to discuss here? If not let this thread die, please.

Sorry, I'm more a moderate Repulican than right wing...even leaning towards Independant party with how the Republicans have done lately.

Am I the only one who read this? --->GJ :up:

...I did not find anything offensive or anything that lead me to believe Van Capo was not wanting to pay taxes only questioning the whys.... o boy.. you did it now Capo...your human...yep..definatley human...Attention on isle #9...we have a human...

Im a native born and raised yet im not going to swallow anything my government tells me ...just because...get real...

like sheep to the slaughter:/\\chop

We may gripe and scream about the taxes here but at least we still can.

I sure as hell don't see anyone really wanting to leave the US but they sure are trying to get here...

I think its a war actually...

Think about it ... this country thrives one demographics. The more of one type then we swing that way the more of another type we go there...

Americans are producing about 1.5 children down from 2.5 ... 25 years ago..Way down from 8.6 ...50 years ago. Muslims and Mexicans on the other hand are pumping out 6.3 children a year (and as a side note most of their families stay together and raise their children with their beliefs)... at that rate America will not be the America in 3 generations....

This is why I do not understand why islomoterrorist want to "kill the infidels" at this time.
HOLY ALI BABA BATMAN all they gotta do is wait a bit longer...:doh:

very true u533, i dunno about the stats but what you say is absolutely right - patience is a virtue, my fundamentalist friends. Do nothing for 3 generations and then forget totally about your nutjob ideas of slaughtering everything that isnt of islam in that time. i like that idea - lord knows it would make my job easier!

oh and by the way, im happy to keep on paying my income taxes - im not as cynical as all the leftwing media types.

Hello baggygreen,

I'm with you though I'm not sure I'd say I was happy to be paying all these taxes but I am glad that the services are in place should I need them and for the most parts, the roads here a well kept. I don't have to worry about sand dunes, dirt road or masive pot holes.