This shooting had nothing to do with Islam or terrorism. It was committed by some white momma's boy who wasn't breastfed enough appartently, and decided to come up with an unoriginal shooting spree that's been done before several times.

Um yes we do have it in Europe. With less guns around generally, it is probably not so wide spread. School shootings are probably very complex to figure out why happens. But the ease of getting a gun and some ammo is probably very much a part of it. Aside that, people behaving badly towards each other probably causes this too.

It has one thing in common with terrorism, however. Spectacle. Look at me world, how I burn out in a short flicker of rage that brightens everything, at least just for a short while before I am forgotten permanently.

What's with the Germans? :shifty:

Germany, November 1999: A 15-year-old student in Meissen, eastern Germany, stabbed his teacher to death after taking bets from classmates he would dare commit the crime.

He was later jailed for seven years.

Germany, March 2000: A 16-year-old pupil at a private boarding school in the Bavarian town of Branneburg, shot a 57-year-old teacher, who later died from injuries.

The teenager - who also shot himself - was facing expulsion from school after failing a cannabis test.

Germany, February 2002: A former pupil killed his headmaster and set off pipe bombs in the technical school he had recently been expelled from in Freising near Munich.

The man also shot dead his boss and a foreman at the company he worked for before turning the gun on himself. Another teacher was shot in the face, but survived.

Germany, April 2002: Seventeen people killed after a gunman - a former pupil - opens fire in a school in Erfurt, eastern Germany. He then turned the gun on himself.

What's with the Germans? :shifty:

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Happened in Denmark too, a guy took a gun into the cafeteria of the University of Aarhus and shot people, killed one or two, before killing himself. Also an introvert.

http://a123.g.akamai.net/f/123/12465...07a.jpg?size=l

The alleged gunman. Looks familiar.

Even his head is bullet-shaped! :o

Here you are wrong. The Quran is a political tool used by Muslims. Try to digest the difference.
What caused the Crusades? Hint: it wasn't bible reading.
What doesn't make Islam evil? The goal of world domination, the subjugation of all non-Polytheist infidels and the death of all polytheists? Or are you denying that this is a basic commandment of Islam?
You can argue with G-d, if you so please.

In any case, I can at least tell you that the Torah commandments to conquer the land of Israel have not applied since after the destruction of the 1st Temple in Jerusalem. That would be about 2500 years ago.
It doesn't bother me. Now what if it was Judaism's goal to convert everyone in the world by conviction or by coercion and to force anyone who refuses conversion to pay a heavy tax or suffer death? Now suppose that such divine laws were to be enforced till the end of time. Would you sit back and let us Jews into your country? Hell, I wouldn't! But there is no such thing in Judaism. Wrong target.
That is definitely a resulting material benefit of Jihad but Jihad is to be performed even if it means the Muslim Jihadist is to die for it. Again, read the Quran.
Why?
By the Bible alone? No? But through learning alone? Pretty much so and Judaism is extremly complex.
As I said, to learn is to know. That holds true for Judaism and so, too, for Islam. Now go and learn.

OMG its Bullet Bill! http://www.usresistance.us/media/nsmb_05.jpg

This is just awful, really awful. *Determined not to bring up Islam*

In answer to Goldorak, it is simple, not as many guns that is all. In Canada we have stricter laws than the US but still have more hunters etc. than in Europe. There was a shooting in Switzerland at the cantonal parliament of Zug in 2001:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1566321.stm

Here military service is mandatory and all able bodied males are required to keep assault rifles and ammo, under strict conditions for example each round must be kept sealed, at home. Still nothing physically to prevent a nut from using it as in the case above, or in the not infrequent domestic disputes. So the Swiss have more guns than say Italians. Still a lot lower than US gun crimes however.

Firearms don't grow legs and arms and walk around shooting people. Firearms are no more alive than a hammer or a steak knife is. It was a madman who did this.

It is not the availability of an inanimate object that is the problem, if that were true then Washington D.C. wouldn't have ranked as the murder capitol of the United States for several years in a row.

A couple of books I suggest are : "More Guns: Less Crime" and "The Bias Against Guns," both are written by John R. Lott.

Updated details.

You know who was really nuts? The kid who tried to take a photo of the shooter with his phone. :nope:

Well on that notion you can claim that there is no reason to ban drugs. No need to prevent people from bringing sharp items with them when boarding planes. No reason for making it a criminal offense to posess counterfeit money. Or selling tobacco to minors. After all, they are just inanimate objects, incapable of harming anything or anyone. It is the sick people who use them that should be done something about. Like the loser who take drugs, the fanatic who uses a pen knife to hijack a plane, the counterfeiter to cheat people with his worthless money or the kiddo for trying to smoke.

Let me show you something about "Gun Control."

http://www.jpfo.org/deathchartlg.gif

http://massbackwards.blogspot.com/20...ol-safety.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,7217,00.html

http://www.firearmsandliberty.com/cramer.racism.html

http://www.a-human-right.com/s_racist.jpg

Original German
http://www.jpfo.org/NaziLawEnglish.htm

English translation
http://www.jpfo.org/NaziLawGerman.htm

http://www.a-human-right.com/s_order.jpg


http://www.canadianembassy.org/gover...control-en.asp

An excerpt from the above link:

A national survey commissioned by the Canadian Firearms Centre in 2000 found an estimated 2.3 million firearm owners.

More than 1,000 Canadians die every year from gunshot wounds, most of them by their own hand. In 1996 the total firearm deaths amounted to 1,131, of which 815 were suicides, 45 were accidents and 156 were homicides.
The violent crime rate has been steadily declining in Canada over the last two decades, and progressively fewer crimes are being committed with firearms........


"Guns cannot be divided neatly into two categories — those that are dangerous and those that are not dangerous," the Court wrote. "All guns are capable of being used in crime. All guns are capable of killing and maiming. It follows that all guns pose a threat to public safety. As such, their control falls within the criminal law power."

— The Supreme Court of Canada
June 15, 2000

That was in June of 2000.

This is 2003

http://www.fraserinstitute.ca/shared...sNav=nr&id=570

Again in 2005

http://www.nationalreview.com/commen...0508190817.asp


I have good reason for holding my position.

Not you, not the police, not the politicians, not the laws, not the courts, or anyone else will ever convince me otherwise.

I will die, before I ever allow myself to be forcibly disarmed.

And I mean exactly that.

I am so glad that I am oceans and continents away. There are idiots all over the world. Can't be helped. One born every minute. So I prefer my idiots unable to arm themselves with pistols, guns, heck even assault rifles. At least I have a chance to run.

Well then I guess you wouldn't want intelligent people, like yourself, to be armed agianst said idiots. :roll:

This only demonstrates the sheer ignorance you've just displayed for all to see.

I'm perfectly fine with you being continents and oceans away from me, as long as your nation doesn't push its' "Gun Control" nonsense on us we'll be perfectly happy to watch you run around wondering why crime has skyrocketed and your only solution is to pass more meaningless laws. Enjoy what freedoms you have before your courts take them from you.

(eats popcorn)