Just because you find that niche 'boring' doesn't mean everyone else does. And by posting this thread title, perhaps we'll all find out it isn't quite as boring as you believe it to be.

I dont care what side i'm on TBH i just want a target rich environment:up:
I must admit though, driving a jap sub does allow you to sink more ships than being a US sub driver ( because the allies had more ships ) more ships = more to sink.:arrgh!:
Look what the U-boat arm accomplished in a target rich environment.
I know in RL jap subs were not as efficient as it's counterparts, but i dont care, i just wanna sink Sh1t LOL :rotfl:

No. some people in an internet forum want it (ie a small subset of a small subset of the market). I note nobody has said that they would happily put their own money into the project.

and if there is one thing you can guarantee it is that it would not sell well in Japan. they don't want to remember, or be reminded of, what they did in WW2.

Hopefully it can be modded in for either those who like playing on arcade settings or those who enjoy the 'you got sunk' screen - but I'd hate to see Ubi waste one second of dev time on such a pointless excercise.

Yeah of course I understand what you point.But,,,,
Hmmm I am not good enlgish speaker
so hard to explain what I want say to you....


By the way "they don't want to remember, or be reminded of, what they did in WW2."
I think it is shame as Japanese, young people in Japan forget
when the war begin, when the war end, which country fighting with...
What only they know is we lost the war.Some younger doenst
even know we had a war......

Or you want say Japanese did bad thing,so we want to remember or be reminded,,,,?
If I harm your feeling I am sorry.

Message to UBI:

I request immediate deployment of 2 Expansion Packs:
1.- Imperial Japanese Navy Addon
2.- Kriegsmarine Addon

A lot of us will pay $CASH$ for them. :|\\

EDIT: To play the winner, stronger and nice side is soooooooo bored. :arrgh!:
Also it lacks the mystic of the U-boats. :stare:
So, surely I will buy SH4, but I will be happy when a worthy opponent appears.
I mean, an addon which permit to play the other side. :yep::yep::yep:

Enough with the IJN Sub sim request please, they were irrelevent in the second world war.





http://www.combinedfleet.com/ss.htm

Sources:
Polmar, Norman and Dorr B. Carpenter. Submarines of the Imperial Japanese Navy, Conway Maritime Press, 1986.
Boyd, Carl and Akihiko Yoshida. The Japanese Submarine Force and World War II, Naval Institute Press, 1995.
Bagnasco, Erminio. Submarines of World War Two, Naval Institute Press, 1977.

Give me an irrelevant submarine to attack the overwhelming US Navy.
That is the real challenge. :yep::yep::yep:
It would be very interesting to see how those japanese subs perform under an aggressive command.

I am stating that the Japanese, as a nation, did appalling things in WW2 and are deliberately avoiding facing them (that does not mean that you personally do so).

Having retraced the Sandakan death march ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandakan_Death_Marches ) some years ago and read of the countless similar atrocities (Bataan, Burma railway, Changi, etc, etc all the way back to Nanking), it is quite clear that Japan does not want to accept responsibility for what Japan did. trying to market products in Japan that remind the Japanese of what they did is not a winning strategy.

The key word here is 'give', I notice not one person here has said that they would be prepared to help finance the project. You all know it would be a commercial failure.

If I had the cash, I'd gladly finance SH V 'U-boats again and back in the atlantic' because it can make money by just bringing advances to what has already been done there.

There was still the movie Yamato some time ago. But no, no recent films about atrocities.

Hmm...possibility of a mod, using the same AI and other code just with US surface
ships and models of various Japanese subs?

irreverent???
Why you said so?


I see. Also in Japan sometime kind of this issue has discussed.
And sometime I saw it in newspaper.
And we cant find good solution.

As an aussie i dont think i could bring myself to play as a jap sub captain . Sounds silly after playing a german one , but its true .

IF I had the money Id do alot of things too...

BTW, you seem to blissfully unaware of your own countries atrocities. Thats too bad.

First, the dev has to consider what would be commercially successful and while a few might like being a Jap CO most don’t care for the above often stated reasons.
The majority that “think” they would like being a Jap likely know little about the poor boats the Jap subs were.
They were extremely slow to dive and a type IX is nimble by comparison to the poor maneuverability of these dogs. They were so structurally weak a good sneeze would sink one. Seriously they were weak, very very weak compared to US and German subs.
It might be interesting to run a few patrols to get an idea of how crappy boats are frustrating (even though they had great torpedoes) but it would not be long before you forget what side your on and care about having decent equipment and a snow ball chance in hell of surviving an M-80 or a couple firecrackers.
The Japs were big on making things photograph well and have impressive stats and their boats look good on paper. They are poor subs to actually have to use in combat, though.

Wulfmann