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lesrae 01-21-06 04:34 AM

Agreed, but also:

3)Don't make war if you aren't up to it.

;)

U-214 01-21-06 04:40 AM

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3)Don't make war if you aren't up to it.
I agree.I m not saying they were or that politically they were sane to move like that while their preparation was nill and their infantry troops were completely untrainned compared to the Royal Marines.

I say that their pilots ,if not anything else,were brave.Very brave to dance like that between the British ships.You ll see in the new link i posted which has live action footage of the attacks on the ships.I hope it's the right video this time.I am downloading it myself to make sure.

U-214 01-21-06 04:49 AM

P.S:I checked the new link,it is correct.It is the video i knew.

Bellman 01-21-06 05:05 AM

:rotfl: lesrae:
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Kapitain, not to rag you mate but as it's going to be in all your posts, your signature should be:..'we are meant to be monitoring thier ....'
Wim Libaers
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And also change the "thier" to "their".
lesrae:
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Missed that one :oops: )
lesrae:
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3)Don't make war if you aren't up to it.
QED ? :-j

lesrae 01-21-06 05:08 AM

LOL

Point taken :oops:, but in my defence I was just having a laugh with him.

Bellman 01-21-06 05:19 AM

BOT - SVGA Harrier and Falcon Gold were my first two PC flight sims. Heck that was a long time ago.
Although the Harrier campaign was somewhat boring as success was dependent on constantly whittling away
bases with Mavericks, carrier landings and dogfights were great fun.

The Harriers chuckability, turning capability and climb rates made for some interesting dogfights.That is not to
downgrade the mud-moving fun in careful quasi -helicopter use of terrain masking.

Looking forward to seeing how this new sim pans out.

Bellman 01-21-06 05:23 AM

:lol: ''Beer is for life, not just for Christmas.''

Engraved on my throat - :up: :yep: :ping:

CCIP 01-21-06 12:55 PM

I'd like to see this thing run - if it delivers on the campaign promise, I think it'll make for a great sim. I'm not particularly 'educated' as far as this theater of war goes, so it'll be just another learning experience for me :)

VON_CAPO 01-21-06 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by U-214
This is not about a game ,but for the real life.If anyone is interested,here is a tribute video of the Argentinian Airforce during the Falklands war:

Even if i am not Argentinian i felt moved by it.Look how low they were flying to avoid radar detection from the British ships.That same low altitute made many bombs not to explode on impact.

Regards

OK,here must be the file i knew.54 MB

http://www.filefactory.com/get/v3/f2...694cb5d6b29231

Click on the free download option

:o :o :o
This is the first time I see those planes in a video flying so low.
Now I understand why the britons called that place "the bomb alley". :o :o :o

Thank you.

There is some videos about how the argentinians used the exocet missiles. I will try to post them.

U-214 01-21-06 08:56 PM

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This is the first time I see those planes in a video flying so low.
Yes,i haven't seen anything like that since WWII with the kamikaze...Low flying had advantages :

-Avoid radar detection and British AA defence until the last moment,so to increase the possibility to throw their bombs.The Argentinians had a handful of AM39 Exocet,which they used (in the video i posted there is an Exocet shot-the one in which you see the missile from above hitting the ship in straight line-).But they were very limited.The rest was free fall bombs,so low flying was permitting better accuracy.If they had more Exocets the war may have ended differently,as no CIWS was available at the time.

-Once in the area,avoid the lock from the AA missile guidance radar.The British had among others Sea Darts at the time.If flying too low ,the radar couldn't lock onto the plane.That explains the photo in the first page of that pair of aircrafts that fly just above the surface between a rain of AA gun fire.Also sea clutter was making the tracking radar of almost any AA missile have problems.

The disadvantage of course was their crappy bombs wouldn't explode often and that leaving the area intact was difficult.

That's why i said that they were brave.As the rest of their army,the pilots lacked advanced trainning IMHO.It is well known that they had semi-active radar A2A missiles ,but they were using them as "fire and forget" instead of illuminating the target with their radar until the missile was close enough to use its own radar.Only IR missiles at the time were fire and forget.No wonder why the British massacred them in air combat.




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There is some videos about how the argentinians used the exocet missiles. I will try to post them.
I will be glad to see them if you find them :up:

Regards

VON_CAPO 01-21-06 11:53 PM

Here they are. Videos (british source) about how the argentinians used the exocet missiles.

Video 1 = http://rapidshare.de/files/11543485/1.avi.html .

Video 2 = http://rapidshare.de/files/11543901/2.avi.html .

Video 3 = http://rapidshare.de/files/11545493/3.avi.html .

U-214 01-22-06 05:15 AM

Thank you Von Capo.I dl the first 2,i won't dl the 3rd as i m bored to wait.Between the first and the second i had to wait 30 minutes.After dl the second now says i must wait 77 minutes.Duh.

Anyway,the first was the biggest one,so i guess i don't lose anything much important.

Gizzmoe 01-22-06 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by VON_CAPO
Here they are. Videos (british source) about how the argentinians used the exocet missiles.

Nice videos, thanks!

I´ve combined the three videos into one and recompressed it (28MB), if one of you 56k/ISDN guys is interested I will upload it to Filefront.

Abraham 01-22-06 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Wim Libaers
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Originally Posted by lesrae
Kapitain, not to rag you mate but as it's going to be in all your posts, your signature should be:

Gentlemen in light of this morning's events I'm compelled to remind you that we are meant to be monitoring thier ASW exercise ....... NOT PARTICIPATING IN IT !

Just saving Abraham the trouble ;)

And also change the "thier" to "their".

You guys are really helpful!
However, I've given up on Kapitain's capitals, dots & comma's...
At least for today.
:D

VON_CAPO 01-22-06 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by U-214
Thank you Von Capo.I dl the first 2,i won't dl the 3rd as i m bored to wait.Between the first and the second i had to wait 30 minutes.After dl the second now says i must wait 77 minutes.Duh.

Anyway,the first was the biggest one,so i guess i don't lose anything much important.

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Originally Posted by Gizzmoe
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Originally Posted by VON_CAPO
Here they are. Videos (british source) about how the argentinians used the exocet missiles.

Nice videos, thanks!

I´ve combined the three videos into one and recompressed it (28MB), if one of you 56k/ISDN guys is interested I will upload it to Filefront.

You are welcome. :up:


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