So you believe in reincarnation ? Returning as a dildo in your next life would definitely be a major step up for you, even though it'd mean Danni Minogue will be over 70 years old by then :rotfl:

That means asuming that our soul is a different entity from our personality as a whole, and thus, that our personality as we know it will die. So we wil dissapear when we die, and the sould, with that prints, will go elsewhere not retaining our self-consciousness.

And anyway, what prints will a 3 months years old child who dies leave in his soul? Scarcely enough to have even the consciousness of his own "I"

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From the article on reincarnation I linked to earlier:

Or other people may have to be involved.

Besides a correction for a soul having to endure this world even for one moment compared to an etrenal world of perfection, the reincarnated soul might be brought back to affect other people in this world, such as a family losing an infant or child.

I'm sure Madonna knows more about this than me by now. Maybe you should ask her.

Or maybe not. :88)

Please put a warning on the General Topic Forum when you plan to die... :D
To make Islamic afterlife even more unattractive for men I've heard that no alcohol is served and those virgins somehow always remain virginal... even after the act!
I rather spend the evening with one experienced woman and a bottle of whine in this life than any amount of crying, bleeding, complaining (and comparing!) virgins and a glass of water in Paradise...
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That makes it even worser....if a soul can have different personalities in the earth thorugh succesive purifications, it is clearer than ever that Avon Lady or Hitman, as we are now, will cease to exist when they die, and only a print of their behaviour -not their self consciousness- will remain in an entity that is not them.

This is in my opinion similar to amnesiae or going mad...the person ceased to exist, because a person is his experiences and education. It's just that the body and the soul remain, but the personality -and thus, the person we knew- simply vanished for ever with no trace. :o

I know a little bit about various medical conditions but if you want to hear more than the basics, you should consult a physician.

Similarly, my purpose here is not to argue, nor to profess expertise, but to give a general knowledge about a very specific subject, according to a Jewish perspective.

I have never studied the subject of reincarnation nor is my knowledge about souls or the world to come vast enough to qualify me as an afterlife technical support representative.

If you're really interested in the subject, I'm sure there's tons of article on the Web for you to read, that may answer some of the questions you have.

I, however, am not qualified to do so. :nope: That's for sure! :yep:

You have however argued very well, and in the common dialog of two persons (You and me) who are no experts in reincarnation, we have sure progressed and perfectioned our ideas :up: Even the fact of putting our preconceived ideas to stress and wondering about their exactitude, we have refined them. Isn't it beautiful how open minded and peaceful discussion allows people to improve as humans? :D

There must be more to it than just living 70 odd yrs on this earth then dieing and thats it, we cease to exist. This universe we live in is billions of yrs old yet man only gets to live a fraction of it? And for what purpose. So we're born, we grow up fall in love have children live a few more yrs then we're old and our time is up only to turned to dust or ash and thats it! We will never see our children again and they will never see there parents again. Thats too depressing. I would rather believe we go to another place, heaven, Gods kingdom or the New Jerusalem some call it. Where there is no death nor sickness and tears will be a thing of the past. Pure bliss. Yes the flesh dies but the spirit lives on. Where you go is really how you choose to live on this earth. I have listened to many christians, Jehovah Witnesses have told me that Hell is just eternal death. I think they're wrong there or they're frighten of the truth about hell so adding there version instead to make themselve feel safe... Its so easy for one to not believe in God because if they did then they did know they better start making big changes QUICK! So fooling themselves in thinking there is no God somehow makes them feel safe. Then because of all the religious BS that is poping up, new spiritual religeons with the Mother earth Goddesses or flower power jesus loves you types or people killing in the name of God or i killed my family becasue God told me too weirdos, no wonder today it is hard to get people to believe, why would you want too.

Some say when we die our spirit sleeps until the day of Judgement then we're raise to meet our maker, who is holding the book of life if our name is not in the book of life then it means death. There are 144000 sealed from all the tribes of Israel, that are already choosen to go to heaven these are those that couldn't tell a lie if they wanted too.
Then theres those who lived good lives but wasn't sure if God really exist. They will live in a Kingdom made from God for a thousand yrs where they will experience all the goodness of what God offers them, They will see God, they will never grow old nor suffer from any sickness, but only for a 1000 yrs. Then they will once again be tested by Satan. If they fail the second test then its dinner with hitler.
But do not fear sinners! there is hope :) Have you read the bible? Remember what moses did, no? Well i will tell you.
Moses saw an Egyptian beating a Hebrew, one of his own people. Glancing this way and that and seeing no-one was looking he killed the Egyptian and hid him in the sand. So that day Moses commited murder. As terrible as Moses' sin was, it did not put him outside the purpose of God. Grace can forgive, cleanse and renew even a murderer and make him fit for the service of God. The same God who took a murderer like Moses or a prosecutor like Saul of Tarus and made them into people of power, can do the same for you. All he requires is your consent and co-operation.

On a last note: I find the mormon way quite amusing they believe they will one day actually become gods themselves! As long as they live pure lives. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Amen to that brother :|\

Monty Pythons Flying Circus, but Cod be you and me, Avon Lady!
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Regarding Moses, no. He defended a helpless person from being beaten to death by an Egyptian taskmaster, who would have been a threat to Moses had he been alive.

If you kill a robber about to shoot an innocent person on the street, you are a hero, not a murderer.

As for Saul, are you referring to King Saul? If so, to what event?

:huh: I don't want to go to New Jerusalem after my death !

Sign me up for an eternal Club Med in a Carribean or Tahitian style resort in the hereafter with beautiful oceans and subtropical islands to explore, plenty of sailing boats, scuba equipment, plenty of hot young women (not all virgins), only a handful of guys to drink beer with and play sims, great food in abundance, etc. And can I be 18 forever then ?

An eye for an eye?

(Saul of Tarsus) who was a pharasaic Jew and ruthless persecuter of Xians had a conversion experience. [He was blinded, Jesus told him to go meet a Jew in a certain town (forgot the name of the Jew) the Jews were afraid of him because he was well known as a murderer of Jews but once Saul told him what happened they helped him] Paul (formerly Saul of Tarus) then begins a program to convert the Gentiles to a reformed sect of Judaism.

I know you will correct me if i am wrong :sunny:

No. "Do not stand by your brother's blood" (Leviticus 19:16).

Read your Bible! :smug:

Matthew: Chapter 5 verse 21
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