She's lovely and I want to 'protect' her.

Pearl Harbor was a big flop because of it's director, Michael Bay.

Michael Bay is against violence in movies, which is wierd since he did direct the remake of Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

I only liked the attack on Pearl Harbor, that was the best part of the movie, except the Zeros taking off from a modern American aircraft carrier was rather dumb... They could've done some CGI in that department to make it look at least a little more authentic. But why bother if the movie's crap anyway, right?


Red Dawn was one of my favorites when I was a kid.... now when I saw it again.... (puts face in hands) I can't believe I thought that was cool.

Worst

U571 -- total distortion and badly made -- an opportunity missed as the reality of the first captured Enigma and the secret work at Bletchley Park is so much more interesting than this fiction.

Best

Das boot

...and for laughs

Down periscope - i just laugh when they sing this and then make Exec officer Pascal walk the plank :rotfl:

Sing me a duuuurge matey :arrgh!:

Come all ye young fellers that follows th' sea.
W-ay! Hey? Blow th' man down!
I'll sing ye a song if ye'll listen t' me.
Give us th' time an' we'll blow th' man down!

'Twas in a Black Baller I first served my time.
W-ay! Hey? Blow th' man down!
And in a Black Baller I wasted my prime.
Give us th' time an' we'll blow th' man down!

'Tis when a Black Baller's preparin' for sea.
W-ay! Hey? Blow th' man down!
Th'sights in th' fo' cas'le is funny t' see.
Give us th' time an' we'll blow th' man down!

Wi' sodgers an' tailors an' Dutchmen an' all.
W-ay! Hey? Blow th' man down!
As ships for prime seamen aboard th' Black Ball.
Give us th' time an' we'll blow th' man down!

But when th' Black Baller gets clear o' th' land.
W-ay! Hey? Blow th' man down!
It's then as ye'll hear th' sharp word o' command.
Give us th' time an' we'll blow th' man down!

Oh! It's muster ye sodgers an' tailors an' sich.
W-ay! Hey? Blow th' man down!
An' hear ye're name called by a son of a bitch.
Give us th' time an' we'll blow th' man down!

It's "fore-topsail halyards", th' Mate he will roar.
W-ay! Hey? Blow th' man down!
Oh, lay along smartly, you son of a whore.
Give us th' time an' we'll blow th' man down!

Oh, lay along smartly each lousy recroot.
W-ay! Hey? Blow th' man down!
Or it's lifted ye'll be wi' th' toe of a boot.
Give us th' time an' we'll blow th' man down!

Has anyone ever seen the movie Below.

Its not horrible as a thriller, but it sucks as a war movie.

Think Ghost Ship on a Gato Class Submarine during WWII.

In the dark silence of the sea during World War II, the submarine U.S.S. Tiger Shark prowls on what should be a routine rescue mission. But for the shell-shocked crew, trapped together in the sub's narrow corridors and constricted spaces, this is about to become a journey into the sensory delusions, mental deceptions and runaway fear that lurk just below the surface of the ocean and deep inside the human psyche.

IMDB http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0276816/

I liked Below. It's not really supposed to be contending as a war movie. It's just a suspense thriller/horror movie. The war is just a prop.

Yep. Dinah Shore. Pretty, but not a very good actress - so a good match for Danny Kaye. I like Kaye as a singer and stage preformer, but I never was much of a fan of his movies. Sam Goldwyn liked him enough to put him in alot of films.

How can you tell a guy is gay? He leaves this person for Danny Kaye.

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I never saw Pearl Harbor. Is it really that bad?

Bad war movies, eh? How about:

1. Three Kings (Such potential... Such crap.)
2. Any sub movie except DAS BOAT.
3. Black Hawk Down. (Again, great potential, but such a crap movie. I wish those guys had just stuck to the facts, and not made crap up as they went along.)

Did you see The Big Red One? (Mark Hamill as a GI after the first Star Wars). I couldn't believe it was signed by Samuel Fuller. There was a truly ridiculous scene with lots of people faking dead around a wrecked tank... I think German infantrymen were never depicted so stupid as in this film (you just wait behind a door and knock them down one by one as they line to enter...)

And speaking of Michael Bay's Pearl Harbor... I think a different version was shown in Japan, deleting all the scenes where people were machine-gunned in the water. I also believe there was a special edition DVD (just for Europe) which purported to include the scenes too 'gory' which did not make it to the final version (Disney policy).

Pearl Harbor was horrible, using MODERN WARSHIPS for 1940s era ships was a major joke.

And don't forget 'Battle of the Bulge' with Robert Shaw. Lots of M-48 tanks with black crosses supposing to be Tigers and King Tigers... Best scene is when the Allied brass show a big model of the M-48 in a table... 'That's the German secret weapon etc etc'.
Perfectly blue skies all along the film... Wonder why the Allied air force was grounded. And the stunts were ludicrous.

now now hang on...

- I thought Red Dawn was an excellent movie for its time, and I'm a big war movie buff
- U571 was good also along with Kelly's Heroes.

Remember, before you 'rate' the movies, you have to know what the director intended it to be ie. representation of the real thing or just some fictional stuff eg. Kelly's Heroes - this was more a light hearted comedy than anything else.

Now, these are some of the REAL crap movies:

- Rambo (nuff said)
- Hell on the battlefield
- Iron Eagle
- 633 Squadron (all those paper planes)
- POW
- The Thin Red Line
- Windtalkers (those F6F's are a joke)
- Battle of the Bulge

Now here are the GOOD movies:

WW1
- Lost Battalion
- All quiet on the Western Front
- Gallipolli
WW2
- Saving Private Ryan ( :up: )
- Band of Brothers
- U571 (yes I know...still a good movie)
- Das Boot
- Tuskegee Airmen (meh....)
- The Cruel Sea (excellent b/w movie)
- Memphis Belle
- Tora Tora Tora
Vietnam
- Platoon
- Hamburger Hill ( :up: )
- Full Metal Jacket (mainly the Hue battle at the end)

I personally dont care whether a movie is 100% accurate in content or what have you.I simply cant enjoy a movie if I am going to spend 90% of my time nit-picking every little detail of it.

I watch movies and rate them on their entertainment value and not on their historical value or accuracy.This way I can enjoy the movie for what it is supposed to be..a simple form of entertainment.If I want real history and accuracy I will go watch the History Channel or the Military Channel.

Pharoah states my opinion very well
"Remember, before you 'rate' the movies, you have to know what the director intended it to be ie. representation of the real thing or just some fictional stuff eg. Kelly's Heroes - this was more a light hearted comedy than anything else."
Not only the above statement but you also have to look at the budget they had available as well as what time constraints they were under to get the film done.

1.Pearl Harbor was made to be a drama NOT a war movie.They made this quite clear long before the movie came out.
2.Battle of the Bulge..I doubt you'd have been able to get many actual German tanks for the movie at least not in the numbers they needed.They had to make do with what they had available to them and their budget.


I have a list of least liked war movies but none I can put as worst(very short list)

1.Rambo series
2.Pearl Harbor( I hate girly flicks..BLECH)

Movies I enjoyed(just a few in my long list)

1.U571
2.Das Boot
3.Red Dawn
4.Kellys Heroes
5.Tora Tora Tora
6.Midway
7.Operation Petticoat..simply funny
8.Down Periscope..funny as hell
9.Final Countdown(Not a war movie as such but a good what if movie)
10.WindTalkers
11.Patton
12.Blackhawk Down
13.We Were Soldiers(excellent movie)

'The Green Berets' (1968) with John Wayne.

Politics aside, the movie is really bad! :down:

Yeah I forgot about that one, just saw it a few months ago. Doesn't count as a war movie I guess. Not much action, but the scene when they had to go into the bilge or flood tank or whatever that was with the fish skeletons, jellyfish, and god knows what else hanging all over the place really freaked me out. Well written and directed that scene was.

I dunno. I found The Green Berets to be almost ENDEARINGLY bad, like as if Ed Wood made a war flick. But it was politically charged, so that does make it a lousy movie for some. Beyond that, it had some pretty good action, a couple of memorable scenes, the Duke didn't just telephone in his performance (most of the time), and then there's a few screwball moments that just make you smile as they are so bad, even right down to the final scene where The Duke and the little boy go walking off into the sunset -- to the east.

My worst war film is perhaps "Platoon Leader" with Michael Dudikoff. If memory serves, at the end, his buddy falls on a live hand grenade to save the platoon. Instead of having his abdomen blown into hamburger, the guy lives long enough to get up, stumble into a jeep, find an American flag, and wrap himself in it before dying. And that was the high point of the film.

Of course, just to go slightly off topic, the only movie that was so bad that I walked out of it was "Showgirls" -- now I don't know how it ends. Does she get to be a showgirl or not?

I did sit all the way through "Gigli", which was much worse than "Showgirls", and deserves mention as quite possibly the worst Hollywood picture of all-time.

And by way of trivia, I actually worked in the place that they used as sets for "Maximum Surge", with Yasmine Bleeth and Walter Koenig. This movie didn't make it into mass-distribution, but I do consider it the Worst Movie Ever Made, Period.