Actually that strategy would probably work pretty well on Biden. At least get him mad enough to start calling people Dog Faced Pony Soldiers.

The Democrats will win it, but the Republicans will steal it.

Whatever you say Comrade.

I think in a way he could be right.

Biden wins the election with a very little margen...Mr. Trump accept the defeat....until beginning of December where he declare a state of emergency due to...something(maybe corona and the riots)and postpone the change of President in the White House

(Yes I have a very good imagination, I know)

Markus

Well I already explained to you how that can't and won't happen Markus. Once a new president is elected the previous president cannot stop the inauguration. There is no state of emergency or other shenanigan he could pull that would stop the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court from meeting with the incoming president, in secret if need be, to administer the oath and once that happens the reigns of governmental power will pass on to the new guy whether the old one wants it to happen or not.

It's called click bait Markus and very bad rumor spread by anti-Trump people with thousands believing it in order to get them to vote for Biden.

Dirty politics :yep:

Fortunately, the president does not have that authority.



We do not need the outgoing presidents permission or even presence in order to swear in a new president.



Each state has the sole authority to certify that state's electoral votes. The only federal counting occurs in the House of Representatives and it is witnessed by everyone in congress. Kinda tough to challenge that count.

In this and in every other cases I trust you more than what our news paper in Denmark and Sweden tells us.

As mentioned in our US-politics thread.

The American sages/Political wise men, are asking them self can he do that ?
Can the President reject/refuse the result from the upcoming Presidential election Nov. 3 and stay in the White House.

But I believe you more.

Markus

If, by some fantastic stretch of the imagination, Biden won and Trump tried to remain in office, the riots going on now would look like child's play compared to the chaos that would ensue. Hell, half the country had a literal* mental meltdown when he legitimately won the first election†. And the same people who - before the election - were telling Trump that he must accept the results, were now ... not wanting to accept the results.

"But Hillary won the popular vote!", they cried. Which is true. But that's not how it works. And ever since then, some people have been doing anything and everything to try and nullify the election, change how U.S. presidential elections work and/or get Trump thrown out of office for something ... anything. They just keep throwing allegations at him to see if anything sticks. And nothing has, no matter how much it upsets some people. The only thing it has accomplished seems to be digging up dirt on everyone else.

Of course, Trump [and others] tried to do the exact same thing to Obama by questioning his birthplace‡. The only difference is that no one was screaming at the sky, crying or throwing a tantrum the likes of which you'd expect from a two year old. Either way, it didn't work then, it's not working now and I'd wager it won't work in the future.

What I find ridiculous about all of this is that the President of the United States is not a dictator, king or any other type of absolute ruler. Their ability to ruin this country is severely limited by the checks and balances of the judicial and legislative branches, put in place by the founding fathers at the very inception of this country. And those checks and balances have been exercised plenty of times during Trump's presidency. He's even been impeached. Add to that the fact that the President's time in office is also limited to a maximum of eight years and you can see that, although the President does have a great deal of power and is supposed to be a representative leader of a great nation (stop laughing), they are ultimately a small part of what decides the fate of this nation.

IOW, if you don't like the current President - just wait a little while. The world won't end, we'll eventually have a new President and you will be just fine. What concerns me is all of the people who have been in office for decades, but who are now blaming Trump - who has been in office for less than four years - for all of the country's problems. Think about that.



* By "literal" I mean the [apparently] "old" meaning of "something that actually happened".

† You can argue about this until you're blue in the face, but ... if you are an American, Trump is in fact your President - whether you like it or not.

‡ It has always been my understanding that a child born to a U.S. citizen - no matter where - is automatically a U.S. citizen. (The Constitution is characteristically vague about this.) So, even if Obama was born in Kenya as some allege, AFAIK his mother was a U.S. citizen so it doesn't even matter.

My question to any and all Trump supporters: What if Biden wins the election but there's clear evidence that the Democrats cheated, manipulated the system to get that win? Does Trump still step down post-November?

You can produce evidence to back up any theory but if Biden won that's because a majority of state electors determined that he won. I would think that Biden takes over and impeachment proceedings then begin if the evidence is all that clear.

First of all I picked Ross Perot I did this with the knowledge that whoever wins the American people loose.

To this latest question-Which I presume is directed to our American Trump supporters.

I will tell you how my Danish and Swedish anti-Trump friends will see it.

They will approve it and they will say things like
Every effort to get this (name) out of the White House is legitimate

My Danish and Swedish pro-Trump friends

Will of course go berserk and write long comments about the anti-American democracy. Some of them will add Bilderberg, Freemason a.s.o into the equation.

I myself will be sitting with a funny taste in my mouth wondering if there is some honest untouchable people among the American authorities who will dig into this mess and investigate it.

Markus

Ok, I'm just waiting to see how this plays out. If Biden wins a super close race and there are questions and discrepancies, I think if Trump and his cheerleaders on talk radio balk, it could be interesting. I would not be a bit surprised if a majority of Trump supporters follow right along.

Follow along? What you mean by balk? Once the Electoral College produces a result that's it. You expect Trump supporters to barricade the capitol building or something?

Or are you concerned that Trump supporters will act like the Democrats have acted since 2016 and finish tearing the nation apart?

The Electoral College tally reflects the race in each state. If the results are close, there will be a lot of accusations of cheating and fraud.

For example, in 2016 Trump carried Michigan by only 0.3 percent. If Biden narrowly wins Michigan in Nov and that's the state that clinches the 270 he needs, if Trump starts the narrative that the results are not valid, his crowd will follow along. Will they barricade the capital building? I would be be expecting it, they have practice.

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/202...5-s800-c85.jpg

Yeah, I am concerned Trump supporters will act like Democrats and it would not shock me if they did. This pandemic has shown how irresponsible they can be.