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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2585059)

^ I really hope mankind gets its things together and leaves earth, as a united mankind of research, science and common sense, not as a nation.

Then the superpower leaders of the world can finally kill each other, since this seems to be what is driving them since the creation of 'nations'. The chinese lifetime leader or Putin or Kim were bad enough, but with a loose cannon like Trump on the other hand.. lmao.

And the people who left for other worlds can tell them to kill, poison, expose each other to nuclear radiation and altogether f.. each other up as much as they want.

One can dream :03:

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:hmmm: SOMEHOW IN LINE WITH MY OWN THOUGHT IN ANOTHER THREAD TODAY

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2585043)

Just who considers a first strike a "normal" response?

NYT take on the problem:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/16/u...ack-trump.html
This is not exactly news worthy anymore due to it being a year old problem.

Final draft quote:

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The United States would only consider the employment of nuclear weapons in extreme circumstances to defend the vital interests of the United States, its allies, and partners. Extreme circumstances could include significant non-nuclear strategic attacks. Significant non-nuclear strategic attacks include, but are not limited to, attacks on the U.S., allied, or partner civilian population or infrastructure, and attacks on U.S. or allied nuclear forces, their command and control, or warning and attack assessment capabilities.

Note that this is not actually Trump administration specific (as NYT bias may imply), this trend in policy has been developed under Obama administration.
But then NPR is fairly flawed as a policy document (E2D is one of the biggest memes it includes).

As to the Russian nuclear policy, a few years ago it has been significantly changes, due to the growing power of our non-nuclear forces and introduction of the non-nuclear deterrence concept.

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Originally Posted by ikalugin (Post 2585117)

NYT take on the problem:

All that article says is that it's an option (one of many) that hasn't even been approved by the administration. That is anything but "normal".
However I would support the policy in extreme circumstances. I think if you or any other country tries to take us out through a strategic attack then we should use any means we have at hand to stop you and make sure that you never try it again.

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2585189)

No way will America (presently headed by President Donald Trump) allow an image on the national news of a USN Aircraft carrier, with over 5,000 men and women personnel onboard, to be seen smoldering in smoke in the South CHina Sea or even off the coast of Iran without demanding instant justice :yep:

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Originally Posted by August (Post 2585189)

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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro (Post 2585192)

^ Very much agreed. :yep:

I would only add, the weapons the U.S has at it's disposal are well know. What of the weapons as yet unknown that may become known in short order were war to break out ?