Well.... He did win the Heisman last year and was the first pick overall....



Even though he only played a half a game, he's the first quarterback I've seen in a Browns uniform in 25 years that actually looked like he knew what he was doing. It's been that long.


What's amazing is that he hasn't played more than 30ish snaps with the first team. Total, ever. Once they get familiar with each other, they may actually be a competent team.

I know he was big, but I didn't know he was good ... I don't pay much attention to football except when it is the season. The QB for the NY Jets was rookie too and available in the same draft, but the Browns chose Mayfield. Finally they did something right.

Can you please explain how the Cleveland Browns owner became the owner after he had the Baltimore Colts taken away from him. I never understood that one.

Here's my picks in Red as you can see I am partial to the home teams

Sep 20 8:20 PM Jets @ Browns

Browns won 21 to 17

Sep 23 1:00 PM 49ers @ Chiefs

Sep 23 1:00 PM Titans @ Jaguars

Sep 23 1:00 PM Giants @ Texans

Sep 23 1:00 PM Bengals @ Panthers

Sep 23 1:00 PM Broncos @ Ravens

Sep 23 1:00 PM Raiders @ Dolphins

Sep 23 1:00 PM Bills @ Vikings

Sep 23 1:00 PM Colts @ Eagles

Sep 23 1:00 PM Packers @ Redskins

Sep 23 1:00 PM Saints @ Falcons

Sep 23 4:05 PM Chargers @ Rams

Sep 23 4:25 PM Bears @ Cardinals

Sep 23 4:25 PM Cowboys @ Seahawks

Sunday night football

Sep 23 8:20 PM Patriots @ Lions

Monday night football

Sep 24 8:15 PM Steelers @ Buccaneers

Last Sundays NFL-matches had 6 surprises.

Meaning the favorit lost or played equal (Draw)

The question about tomorrows NFL-games are.

How many surprises will there be and where.

Markus

I didn't know that he was, and I can't seem to find anything about him owning any part of the Colts.


He bought a percentage of the Steelers in 2008, but had to sell that to gain ownership of the Browns in 2012. Considering the Colts moved in 1982, I don't think he was into NFL ownership then.

Okay I was messed up ... it was the Browns controversial move to Baltimore that I was thinking of and the Browns have never been great again (till now)


"November 6, 1995, Browns owner Art Modell announced his intention to move Cleveland's team to Baltimore".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...anapolis_Colts

One win does not make us great. It just fills us with false hope, just to be crushed yet again, dashed upon the rocks that guard the shores of decency.




Thanks for bringing that up ...... :wah:

Hope some of you NFL-expert can help me.

Earlier yesterday I saw the first match here

49'ers @ Chiefs.

During the 4th quarter I was for some minute in my kitchen.

When returning I manage to get a glimpse of following text on the screen

3rd Down convers-something and then some numbers 5/19 and an another but I didn't get it.

What does this mean ?

Markus

Aight....



In American Hand Egg, when a team gains control of the ball, they have 4 attempts to move the ball at least 10 yards (about 10 meters). If they successfully move the ball 10 yards within those 4 tries, and have not scored, they get another 4 tries. And so on.



If, after 4 tries, they have not moved the ball 10 yards, the opposing team gains control of the ball where it lies. And since a team usually starts from within their half of the field, that would make it easy for the opposing team to score. So, at any time they feel they cannot earn those 10 yards, a team may elect to kick the ball away to force the other team to start farther down the field.


Each try is called a 'down'. Usually a team will kick the ball (punt) on fourth down. So that really only gives them 3 real downs to move the ball 10 yards. The ability to move the ball past the 10 yard mark on third down and get a new set of downs, is called a "third down conversion".



Usually by the time the team gets to 3rd down, they are fairly close to having moved the ball 10 yards, so 3rd down conversions is a decent statistic when looking at the offense's effectiveness.



A team with a high 3rd down conversion rate stays on the field longer, increasing their chances of scoring. While a team with a low rate, the opposite is true.

Sunday Night Football Lions 26-10 Patriots

New England Patriots are no longer America's team ... the Cleveland Browns are :D

Thursday
· Cleveland Browns 21, New York Jets 17

Sunday
· Buffalo Bills 27, Minnesota Vikings 6
· Carolina Panthers 31, Cincinnati Bengals 21
· Baltimore Ravens 27, Denver Broncos 14
· Washington Redskins 31, Green Bay Packers 17
· Philadelphia Eagles 20, Indianapolis Colts 16
· New Orleans Saints 43, Atlanta Falcons 37 OT
· New York Giants 27, Houston Texans 22
· Miami Dolphins 28, Oakland Raiders 20
· Kansas City Chiefs 38, San Francisco 49ers 27
· Tennessee Titans 9, Jacksonville Jaguars 6
· L.A. Rams 35, L.A. Chargers 23
· Chicago Bears 16, Arizona Cardinals 14
· Seattle Seahawks 24, Dallas Cowboys 13
· New England Patriots 10 at Detroit Lions 26



Monday
· Pittsburgh Steelers at Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 8:15 p.m. (ESPN)


Conference Standings

AFC
Miami Dolphins 3-0
Kansas City Chiefs 3-0
Cincinnati Bengals 2-1
Tennessee Titans 2-1
Baltimore Ravens 2-1
Jacksonville Jaguars 2-1
Denver Broncos 2-1
Cleveland Browns 1-1-1
Los Angeles Chargers 1-2
Indianapolis Colts 1-2
New York Jets 1-2
New England Patriots 1-2
Buffalo Bills 1-2
Pittsburgh Steelers 0-1-1
Houston Texans 0-3
Oakland Raiders 0-3

NFC
Los Angeles Rams 3-0
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2-0
Chicago Bears 2-1
Philadelphia Eagles 2-1
Washington Redskins 2-1
New Orleans Saints 2-1
Carolina Panthers 2-1
Green Bay Packers 1-1-1
Minnesota Vikings 1-1-1
San Francisco 49ers 1-2
Seattle Seahawks 1-2
Atlanta Falcons 1-2
Dallas Cowboys 1-2
Detroit Lions 1-2
New York Giants 1-2
Arizona Cardinals 0-3

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@ Gargamel

Thank you for your explanation about this 3rd down conversion.

From what I understand from your explanation, these numbers 5/19

Must mean following:

Among all these 10 yards attempt team A have 19 3rd down conversion and team B have manage to interrupt 5 of them.

If this is not correct then enlighten me.

Markus

Nope, you got it backwards. Team A has had 19 3rd downs, and has been able to convert 5 of them. I'm not current on what is a good ratio, but ~27% is pretty bad I think.

Yeah not as bad as they get but pretty bad although for comparison the high end of the scale is well less than 50%. Minnesota for example led the league last season at 44.72%