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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2466156)

It is highly unlikely the town of Oroville will have a profound affect on the global economy. Please dispense with the melodramatics.

Well, since I assume you have a complete census of every industrial or commercial facility affected by the evacuation, you would obviously know more than I.

...and Ray Nagin applies to this situation, how?...

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2466156)

....It is highly unlikely the town of Oroville will have a profound affect on the global economy. Please dispense with the melodramatics...

Maybe not Oroville, but a very significant amount of the water going to southern California come from that reservoir but it's OK because there are only surfers and movie stars there.

And from the link above and here.
https://letsgola.wordpress.com/2017/...-introduction/

...The SWP is an important source of water for SoCal, and Lake Oroville is the main reservoir. While popular conception hold that LA’s water comes from the east Sierra and Owens Valley via the LA Aqueduct, over the last 5 years, that facility has only delivered 29% of LA’s water. The SWP is the largest supplier of water to the city of LA, with 48% of LA’s water over the last 5 years coming from the SWP. So what happens at Lake Oroville is of interest to, well, anyone south of Lake Oroville...

...not to mention the loss of hydroelectric production:

http://sf.curbed.com/2017/2/13/14597...illway-failure

Along with agricultural loses, also...

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(OROVILLE, Calif.) — Nearly 200,000 Northern Californians who live downstream of the country's tallest dam were allowed to return home Tuesday after two nights of uncertainty, but they were warned they may have to again flee to higher ground on a moment's notice if hastily made repairs to the battered structure don't hold.

http://time.com/4671443/california-o...uation-lifted/

The water comes from snow pack to Lake Oroville and the dam releases the water to Feather River which leads to the Sacramento River ... after that I do not know where it goes.

Sacramento to San Francisco Bay perhaps?

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk (Post 2466156)

Tell that to Chris Christie as he hugged Obama after hurricane Sandy. Saying "stuff it where the sun don't shine", does not win and influence friends either. But hey, still part of the union so cut the check. Tomorrow the state will do what it can to discredit the current administration.

It is highly unlikely the town of Oroville will have a profound affect on the global economy. Please dispense with the melodramatics.

Further, the dam was said to need repair in 2013. The Feds said no. There you have it. It is not a case of "I told you so." It is a case of not addressing the problem 4 years ago.

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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro (Post 2466182)

The water comes from snow pack to Lake Oroville and the dam releases the water to Feather River which leads to the Sacramento River ... after that I do not know where it goes.

Sacramento to San Francisco Bay perhaps?

Precisely and fills my marina with silt and serious flotsam crud-One whole dock (of 7) is a carpet of sticks, driftwood and plants. The entire Carquinez Strait (portion of the Sacramento River leading to San Pablo Bay and the Bay/ Golden Gate to the Pacific Ocean) is a log-infested mess at he mouth of the Sacramento\Napa confluence as I found out first-hand last Thursday: the (only)sunny sailing day this last fortnight (the captain's a diehard!:oops:)I manned the bow with a large boat-hook at all times. I presume that Oroville's denizens will B better-prepared for the next evac with gas-tanks filled and snacks/clothes in the trunk to avoid the next exodus/Skedaddle jam.:yeah: http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-conten...3-04.jpg?w=810 I keep the outside-parked Corolla so stocked in case the garaged cars are trapped (no power to the rollup-door) and any 'quake damage requires a new abode-relocate on a moment's notice. SOP after Loma-Prieta and two damaging Napa tremors. ie: My whole street, incl the Cal-Fire chief across from me, knows where my gas-main wrench is(atop the meter) and the first one to it has the duty to prevent fires from gas line ruptures/leaks. We closed three houses after the last one and smelled gas from rupture 3" pipe under the sidewalk... one lot over from my property...adjacent to the street-length sewer which could then fill with explosive gas.:doh: PG&E was on it immediately.

BTW here is a short documentary about how they build the dam back in the day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyPkWlYlSC8

Very interesting "public service" video. After seeing it, and the long shots of the dam under normal conditions, you can see that the Feather River runs at a 90 degree angle from the dam and spillway, which was probably a contributing factor to the undercutting - no "free-flow" under high water conditions, so it "swirled" at the base...

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Originally Posted by Gargamel (Post 2466163)

Well, since I assume you have a complete census of every industrial or commercial facility affected by the evacuation, you would obviously know more than I.

So you can produce this census of every industrial or commercial facility affected?

http://imgur.com/gallery/mpUge

http://i.imgur.com/QaDbboN.png

Got to admit, Trumps infrastructure plans, if he can get the money for them, are something I do approve of, if it's done properly and not haphazardly by the lowest bidder.