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Catfish 01-18-16 08:25 AM

^ Diesel is now cheaper than the plant oil i have used for my car :huh:
The engine does not quite run as good with Diesel though :-?

Oberon 01-18-16 08:43 AM

Yeah, typical isn't it? We've made all these preparations to deal with expensive oil by moving to oil substitutes and now it becomes cheap again.

Still, one could argue that moving away from oil and oil dependency, or at least trying to, has helped bring prices down a little bit (although the whole Saudi/Iran situation has helped most) and keeping away from that dependency will benefit the west in the long term as we become less susceptible to the whims of the oil market and the Middle East.

That's the theory anyway.

Over-reliance on anything is a bad idea anyway. :hmmm:

Schroeder 01-18-16 08:55 AM

^This.
Everything that gets us away from ME oil is good in my books.

Jimbuna 01-18-16 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2374626)

Over-reliance on anything is a bad idea anyway. :hmmm:

I simply give thanks the buggas aren't major exporters of beer and dark rum :)

Aktungbby 01-18-16 10:12 PM

Implementation Day foto
 
http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/OIx...8445983685.jpgWell at least the US flag is to the right if nuthin' else is (right):hmmm:

mapuc 01-19-16 12:26 PM

What if I said "In a very near future we will have a shortage of oil "

It has nothing to do with no-more oil under Saudi Arabian soil or other oil producing countries

Markus

vienna 01-19-16 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna (Post 2374674)
I simply give thanks the buggas aren't major exporters of beer and dark rum :)

...not to mention or overlook pot noodles...


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Oberon 01-19-16 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna (Post 2375053)
...not to mention or overlook pot noodles...


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STEED in five...four...three...

Catfish 01-19-16 04:40 PM

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...pszcmserea.jpg

Jimbuna 01-20-16 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by vienna (Post 2375053)
...not to mention or overlook pot noodles...


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Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 2375054)
STEED in five...four...three...

Rgr that :)

August 01-20-16 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish (Post 2375063)

Our governments are not at all the same. Does the US government commonly jail and execute groups of dissidents? Would the US government attempt to do the same to her if she set foot in our country like the Iranian regime would? Our governments are not the same and shame on her for saying otherwise.

Aktungbby 01-20-16 12:19 PM

AHHHH! the swept(under) carpet of history
 
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Originally Posted by August
Does the US government commonly jail and execute groups of dissidents?

Actually in answer to your query as queried: yes! and signed off by ol Honest Abe at that! Dr Mengele would have been proud too;
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Because of high demand for cadavers for anatomical study, several doctors wanted to obtain the bodies after the execution. The grave was reopened in the night and the bodies were distributed among the doctors, a practice common in the era. The doctor who received the body of Maȟpiya Akan Nažiŋ (Stands on Clouds), also known as "Cut Nose", was William Worrall Mayo. Mayo brought the body of Maȟpiya Akan Nažiŋ to Le Sueur, Minnesota, where he dissected it in the presence of medical colleagues. Afterward, he had the skeleton cleaned, dried and varnished. Mayo kept it in an iron kettle in his home office.
All to the good IMHO, the Mayo Clinic is one of the top rated medical facilities in the world!:woot:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakota_War_of_1862 https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ankatoMN38.JPGApproximately One-third of the Native Americans in the Owens Valley were forcibly relocated to Fort Tejon. After 1863, many returned to their permanent villages that had been established along creeks flowing down from the Sierra Nevada mountains...in the Manzanar area...after which, 1942, we moved in our Nipponese brethrenhttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...zanar_Flag.jpgOld Glory never waved more proudly!:03:...in either case?
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Let us review the main points of the debate. Over 120,000 residents of the U.S.A., two thirds of whom were American citizens, were incarcerated under armed guard. There were no crimes committed, no trials, and no convictions: the Japanese Americans were political incarcerees. To detain American citizens in a site under armed guard surely constitutes a "concentration camp." But what were the terms used by the government officials who were involved in the process and who had to justify these actions? Raymond Okamura provides us with a detailed list of terms. Let's consider three such euphemisms: "evacuation," "relocation," and "non-aliens." Earthquake and flood victims are evacuated and relocated. The words refer to moving people in order to rescue and protect them from danger. The official government policy makers consistently used "evacuation" to refer to the forced removal of the Japanese Americans and the sites were called "relocation centers." These are euphemisms (Webster: "the substitution of an inoffensive term for one considered offensively explicit") as the terms do not imply forced removal nor incarceration in enclosures patrolled by armed guards. The masking was intentional.
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Oberon 01-20-16 12:42 PM

And before WWII but after the 1800s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedition_Act_of_1918

Betonov 01-20-16 12:47 PM

She may have meant that both goverments are full of old farts that abuse their wealth, power and things the population cares about (patriotism, religion, economy) to further their personal gains and goals without actual regard to practice what they preach themselves.

vienna 01-20-16 02:13 PM

Regarding the "relocation" of the Japanese-American citizens, there was a great divide between the Hawaiian Nisei and the mainland Nisei since their cultural viewpoint was different given their geographical differences. The Hawaiian Nisei were a substantially large portion of the islands' population and rather more integrated into the general populace; the mainland Nisei had a bit of a harder time and faced more racial discrimination. When the Hawaiian Nisei Army units were combined with the mainland units, fighting broke out between the two over the perception by the Hawaiians that the mainlanders were overly sensitive and intense. A white Army officer had a brilliant idea and arranged for the Hawaiians to accompany the manlanders when they went to visit their families being held in a "relocation center". Hawaiian Nisei and their families were not subject to "relocation" and were not aware of the extent of the imprisonment nor the conditions of the "detainees". Once the Hawaiians saw the camp, they fully understood the suppressed anger of the mainland soldiers and the internal squabbling ceased. Th Hawaiians were appalled by the situation; as some of them put it, if the purpose of the internment was to protect the Nisei, why were all the the machine guns in the guard towers pointed inwards instead of outwards?...


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