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CCIP 09-02-15 11:17 PM

I think it was more than just an Ohio issue, though.

It doesn't seem like it was an instance of overstepping constitutional powers - but what I think could be said, rather, is that Obama played a strong hand (or perhaps overplayed it) and did so perhaps also for partisan reasons.

August 09-03-15 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CCIP (Post 2341566)
I think it was more than just an Ohio issue, though.

Everything seems partisan these days but as far as I can tell the only real historical opposition has been from Ohio's congressional delegation and they've been both Dem and Repub through the years.

Betonov 09-03-15 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed (Post 2341531)
As on most US peaks, there is a geological survey marker up there. Looks like it may need an update on the name. Yeah, don't disturb it. It's sleeping. :O:

http://www.summitpost.org/images/original/781665.jpg

I just need an inkpad with me and there's my stamp :03:
And a bottle of acetone, I'm not going to leave it dirty. Take only pictures, leave only footprints.

Aktungbby 09-03-15 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov (Post 2341755)
I just need an inkpad with me and there's my stamp :03:
And a bottle of acetone, I'm not going to leave it dirty. Take only pictures, leave only footprints.

PSSST make the trip worthwhile and make 'em crazy!!! have a set of these with you when you summit!:up: They'll be in "denali' about it for years!:O:http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/...14_636x391.jpg

Wolferz 09-03-15 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby (Post 2341762)
PSSST make the trip worthwhile and make 'em crazy!!! have a set of these with you when you summit!:up: They'll be in "denali' about for years!:O:http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/...14_636x391.jpg

Yuppers.
Nobody says you must leave your own footprints.:haha:

Betonov 09-03-15 02:27 PM

Don't worry, I'll make enough animal souds that they'll believe there's a sasquatch up there without footprints :03:

Platapus 09-03-15 02:58 PM

I don't think the issue with congress was a political party partisan issue. As August accurately pointed out, the control of the Ohio Legislation changed parties a few times.

So it was not a Republican vs Democrat issue, to me it was a state vs state.

For some reason, Ohio has a high opinion of McKinley. McKinley always ranks pretty low on my list of presidents. But they like him. And the did not like the idea of their dude losing the name of the highest mountain in the US.

Since the last think Ohio wanted was for the other states to vote on this issue, the only way to maintain the status quo was to simply prevent any vote. No votes tend to maintain the status quo.... a win for Ohio.

And they pulled it off for 40 years which is pretty good.

vienna 09-03-15 03:04 PM

Did a little research for some facts about the Ohio GOP:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_Republican_Party

Seems like the Ohio GOP has had more than a little influence on US national politics. As far as this being a partisan ploy, it most probably is given House Speaker John Boehner is politically the Senior Representative from Ohio. It somewhat like Obama giving Boehner the political 'finger'. The whole Denali uproar in Ohio puts the ball squarely in his court; the failure to preserve the name McKinley is bound to be a noisome irritant when he has to answer to the voters back home, although he could try to use it against Obama with his constituents. The big problem there is Obama will be gone after January 2017 and Boehner's ability to use the issue against any DEM nominee will be limited given the issue really has no real national significance...


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Torplexed 09-03-15 07:45 PM

I'd be curious to know how many Canadians still use the term Queen Charlotte Islands instead of the new name of Haida Gwaii.

The name Haida Gwaii is a modern coinage and was created in the early 1980s as an alternative to the colonial-era name "Queen Charlotte Islands", to recognize the history of the Haida people."Haida Gwaii" means "islands of the people", while "Haida" on its own means not only "us" but also "people". On December 11, 2009, the BC government announced that legislation would be introduced in mid-2010 to officially rename the Queen Charlotte Islands as Haida Gwaii. The legislation received Royal assent on June 3, 2010, formalizing the name change. This name change is officially recognized by all levels of Canadian government.

But being a modern invention will it catch on? :hmmm:

Aktungbby 09-06-15 12:10 PM

this date in history and related name changes
 
1901: William McKinley was shot and mortally wounded by anarchist Leon Czolgosz at the Pan American Exposition. he died eight days later. His killer was executed OCT 29,1901...justice was swift in them-thar days. They say you die twice; the first, when you stop breathing and the second, when somebody says your name for the last time...when they take your name off your Mountain, it begins! His successor, Theodore 'Teddy' Roosevelt, came to the office. Just to be even-handed here I propose removing his name off of Mt Theodore Roosevelt in the Black Hills of South Dakota-the monumental monument at nearby Mt Rushmore will suffice!:D(Bully) http://www.summitpost.org/images/medium/783485.jpgand restoring the traditional Lakota Sioux name for the region Mt Páha Sápa. No big stretch IMHO; we took John F. Kennedy's name off and re-renamed Cape Canaveral...Cape Canaveral:up:...he at least has an eternal flame at Arlington!

Sailor Steve 09-06-15 12:53 PM

And he still has the John F. Kennedy Space Center at Cape Canaveral. :sunny:

Aktungbby 09-06-15 01:07 PM

And a Library !:know: and a decommissioned(2007) carrier CVA-67 available for use as a museum. The name has been adopted by the future Gerald R. Ford-class aircraft carrier John F. Kennedy (CVN-79) :salute:https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...nedy_cv-67.jpg

Torplexed 09-06-15 01:25 PM

In a rather interesting development to this story, some conservatives who are geographically challenged have starting spreading a rumor (or grabbed on to a internet joke) that Denali is Kenyan for "Black Power." Which is priceless as there is no such language as Kenyan.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/no-de...r-black-power/

http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-...me-650x403.jpg



The stupid. Sometimes it burns. Sometimes it freezes. :/\\!!

Platapus 09-06-15 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed (Post 2342543)
In a rather interesting development to this story, some conservatives who are geographically challenged have starting spreading a rumor (or grabbed on to a internet joke) that Denali is Kenyan for "Black Power." Which is priceless as there is no such language as Kenyan.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/no-de...r-black-power/

http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-...me-650x403.jpg



The stupid. Sometimes it burns. Sometimes it freezes. :/\\!!


Before posting stuff like this, please warn us so we can stock up on Facepalms. It is not fair to spring this on us unprepared.

Now I have to borrow a few facepalms since I ran out.


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